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Old 07-04-2015 | 11:55 PM
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For those of you with manuals, where (rpms) is your typical upshift? Is there a factory recommended rpm upshift? I'm curious because I find that shifting is much smoother in these cars if you hold until about 5000-5500 rpms, but that seems high for everyday driving. Of course, it's much more fun to drive that way! (albeit a gas guzzler). Perhaps the smoother shift at higher rpms phenomenon is just demonstrative evidence that these engines' blood line is from the track? Whatever the reason, I just go with it and shift at 5000 for a smooth transition.
Old 07-05-2015 | 12:28 AM
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I believe that there is an icon on the LED display (a small triangular arrow) that lights up when the ECU coded/factory suggested up-shift should take place. It is pathetically low on the RPM scale (like 2,200 RPMs). Personally, in everyday driving I shift at about 4K RPMs but this depends on the traffic and speed it is moving at - at 40 mph in the city I tend to just shift into 3rd because it is just easier. When the roads are open I tend to shift closer to 5K RPMs (trying to keep in mind that we have high-revving engines that don't have to be nursed by sifting at 2,500 RPMs.

Old 07-05-2015 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tcc1999
I believe that there is an icon on the LED display (a small triangular arrow) that lights up when the ECU coded/factory suggested up-shift should take place. It is pathetically low on the RPM scale (like 2,200 RPMs). Personally, in everyday driving I shift at about 4K RPMs but this depends on the traffic and speed it is moving at - at 40 mph in the city I tend to just shift into 3rd because it is just easier. When the roads are open I tend to shift closer to 5K RPMs (trying to keep in mind that we have high-revving engines that don't have to be nursed by sifting at 2,500 RPMs.

I've never seen or heard of such a thing. Is it something that needs to be activated?

OP, Yes, my car likes shifting under heavy load above 5k. Not always doable but I try and take it up above 6k when I can.
Old 07-05-2015 | 02:00 AM
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Normal driving I usually shift between 3,600 to 4,200 RPMs. Spirited driving usually 4,500+ if road conditions and traffic allows. The problem when driving on public roads, is the faster you go, the faster you run out of open road.

When driving however, I shift according to my ear as opposed to looking at the tachometer.
Old 07-05-2015 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Hella-Buggin'
I've never seen or heard of such a thing. Is it something that needs to be activated?
I think this is only on the 991 for now.
Old 07-05-2015 | 06:06 AM
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It's on 997s...its a ^ Looking thing. All it does is say the most "efficient" shift point I believe if you intend to attempt to conserve fuel. Can be useful for road trips I guess.
Old 07-05-2015 | 07:45 AM
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I have it on my 997.2. It is absolutely worthless. If I shifted every time the triangle popped up I'd be lugging the engine.

I've learned to ignore it.
Old 07-05-2015 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Hella-Buggin'
I've never seen or heard of such a thing. Is it something that needs to be activated?
Old 944's from the 80's had a green up shift arrow that would light at recommended times to shift. I believe some 911's of the same vintage either had it or was an option.
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I have it on my 997.2. It is absolutely worthless. If I shifted every time the triangle popped up I'd be lugging the engine.

I've learned to ignore it.
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Agreed..... I actually play with this every once in a while try the car's advice and can't imagine ever really driving that way. I guess you would use it if you were on perfectly flat roads (or going downhill) and enjoyed very slow acceleration. It really is stupid and frankly, I can't imagine anyone actually using it as a shift guide.

I wonder if it is there to prevent some regulatory body from challenging Porsche's MPG claims.

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Old 07-05-2015 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Hella-Buggin'
I've never seen or heard of such a thing. Is it something that needs to be activated?
The arrow exists on the 997.2 - it's there for economy not performance. Here's what the manual says:

The consumption-orientated gear shift indicator A
on the display panel of the on-board computer
assists a fuel-saving driving style. The gear shift
indicator lights up as a recommendation to shift
up to the next-higher gear depending on the
selected gear, engine rpm and accelerator pedal
position.
f When the gear shift indicator A lights up,
change to the next higher gear to decrease
fuel consumption.


Anyone know how to shut the indicator off?
Old 07-05-2015 | 09:56 AM
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If your car doesn't shift smoothly under 5000rpm, you have other issues.

I shift at between 3000 and 3500 during normal driving.
Old 07-05-2015 | 10:24 AM
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To reduce cylinder bore wear Excellence mag's tech writers suggest keeping rpm 3K and up so I up shift at an rpm that will not drop the revs below 3K. Did in our prior 997s and now in our '07 GT3. If I am going to put any load on the motor I will drop down another gear. Reading an English Porsche mag they discuss bore scuffing on the 997's which is worse on the Tip cars which tend to up shift at lower rpm. Some of their used dealers will not resell 997 Tip cars or 3.8 S cars. Me, I keep the rpm up.

All the best......
Old 07-05-2015 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jhbrennan
The arrow exists on the 997.2 - it's there for economy not performance. Here's what the manual says:

The consumption-orientated gear shift indicator A
on the display panel of the on-board computer
assists a fuel-saving driving style. The gear shift
indicator lights up as a recommendation to shift
up to the next-higher gear depending on the
selected gear, engine rpm and accelerator pedal
position.
f When the gear shift indicator A lights up,
change to the next higher gear to decrease
fuel consumption.


Anyone know how to shut the indicator off?
Yes, floor the gas pedal
Old 07-05-2015 | 11:10 AM
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With a cold engine ( oil temp below 200F) I shift at 3K rpm. With the engine warmed up, I shift at 4K-5K rpm. I cruise at 2500-3000 rpm normally. I rev up to 6K rpm when pushing it.
Old 07-05-2015 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NAM VET
To reduce cylinder bore wear Excellence mag's tech writers suggest keeping rpm 3K and up so I up shift at an rpm that will not drop the revs below 3K. Did in our prior 997s and now in our '07 GT3. If I am going to put any load on the motor I will drop down another gear. Reading an English Porsche mag they discuss bore scuffing on the 997's which is worse on the Tip cars which tend to up shift at lower rpm. Some of their used dealers will not resell 997 Tip cars or 3.8 S cars. Me, I keep the rpm up.

All the best......
Can you advise what issue of Excellence recommended driving above 3K rpm? I missed/forgot that article.


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