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Now I'm sure you're just messing with us. Anyway, I'll take the bait... Your car is EXACTLY AS WIDE as that '06 997.1 C2. Not even a mm wider. Same. But I agree, even the narrow body 997.1/997.2 cars are (visually) much wider than narrow body 996es. 997 cars came in two widths only. And 305 tires on the back are fine. Throw some spacers on there and you'll be even better off. Enjoy your car.
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Who are you people?Go to a dealership,ask the simple questions about the brand of car your interested in,if you don't know what a C2 ,C2s C4, C4s is heaven forbid a Targa, GT2 or GT3 maybe you should not be driving something not quite so complicated. I drive a GT2RS figure that one out.
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+997...jeez, is the 997 board now devolving into the Twilight Zone?!
Must be the h2o that is piped into Sherman Oaks...
P.S. OP is the vehicle in the pic below a 997.2 2S (e.g., narrow body) or 997.2 4S (e.g., wide body)???
Must be the h2o that is piped into Sherman Oaks...
P.S. OP is the vehicle in the pic below a 997.2 2S (e.g., narrow body) or 997.2 4S (e.g., wide body)???
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P.S.S. I'm not going to even bother waiting for the answer...
The correct answer (it is my game and I get to decide these matters!), is that it doesn't matter whether it is narrow, wide, NA, TT, MT or PDK...it is Porsche doing what it was meant to do.
Now go out and take a drive and don't worry whether you love the interior in the 996 more than the 997 or if your's has "x" HP or "x+y" HP.
Drive the 911.
P.M. And remember "slow in fast out"!
The correct answer (it is my game and I get to decide these matters!), is that it doesn't matter whether it is narrow, wide, NA, TT, MT or PDK...it is Porsche doing what it was meant to do.
Now go out and take a drive and don't worry whether you love the interior in the 996 more than the 997 or if your's has "x" HP or "x+y" HP.
Drive the 911.
P.M. And remember "slow in fast out"!
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Compared to his previous 996, the OP does have a "wide body" with his 997 C2S - the 997 C2S is almost the same difference wider than the 996 as the 997 C4 is to the 997 C2...so let the new 997 owner enjoy his ride - he knows what he has.
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My 997 S is significantly wider than my 996 was. A C4S may be even wider...but I looked at an 06 Carrera next to my S and mine is wide compared to the non S. So maybe we have narrow, wide, wider, and widest. Mine is wide. Went to Bev Hills Porsche, the dealer that sold the car to the first owner and they ran the options codes and gave me a print out.
1. It does not have the X51 engine...just the standard 355 hp.
2. I got the service records from the dealer that sold me the car...the original owner wasn't gentle with his wheels, banged up the right two and had them refinished.
3. The longer he owned the car the cheaper he got about service. He would take it to Porsche for them to diagnose what it needed, then take the car to an indie and have them do the work. Still the car is in overall very good condition.
4. I have no idea why the original owner put 305 size tires on the rear. They are almost brand new. I talked about it with the dealer and I'll use them up and replace them with 285s.
Recent services include 7/12 serpentine and ribbed V belts changed at 53k, 10/12 air/oil separator replaced 53k, 4/14 air filter changed at 65k, 8/14 passed smog, 10/14 all brake pads and sensors changed 69k.
More later. Maybe pics of me and a Rolex next to the car.
1. It does not have the X51 engine...just the standard 355 hp.
2. I got the service records from the dealer that sold me the car...the original owner wasn't gentle with his wheels, banged up the right two and had them refinished.
3. The longer he owned the car the cheaper he got about service. He would take it to Porsche for them to diagnose what it needed, then take the car to an indie and have them do the work. Still the car is in overall very good condition.
4. I have no idea why the original owner put 305 size tires on the rear. They are almost brand new. I talked about it with the dealer and I'll use them up and replace them with 285s.
Recent services include 7/12 serpentine and ribbed V belts changed at 53k, 10/12 air/oil separator replaced 53k, 4/14 air filter changed at 65k, 8/14 passed smog, 10/14 all brake pads and sensors changed 69k.
More later. Maybe pics of me and a Rolex next to the car.
And it's still not a wide body..
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Well I talked to the dealer (an Indie) I bought the car from and they are performing all the deferred maintainence I mentioned earlier, gratus. They are also giving me new front tires, and per someone here, I'm keeping the 305s on the rears. I found this deal to be very friendly and accommodating and all very straight and I am satisfied.
As for wide bodies...yes I am wrong and all of you are right. It is the difference between my 996 normal body and my 997 normal body the misled me...along with the letter S which used to mean a wide body.
Someone commented that I should have inspected the car more completely before buying it. Yes I should have. But I didn't and the seller is being a real gentleman about it.
All in all, the 997 exterior is more attractive to me than my 996 and the interior is less attractive to me than my 996.
As for wide bodies...yes I am wrong and all of you are right. It is the difference between my 996 normal body and my 997 normal body the misled me...along with the letter S which used to mean a wide body.
Someone commented that I should have inspected the car more completely before buying it. Yes I should have. But I didn't and the seller is being a real gentleman about it.
All in all, the 997 exterior is more attractive to me than my 996 and the interior is less attractive to me than my 996.
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My 997 S is significantly wider than my 996 was. A C4S may be even wider...but I looked at an 06 Carrera next to my S and mine is wide compared to the non S. So maybe we have narrow, wide, wider, and widest. Mine is wide. Went to Bev Hills Porsche, the dealer that sold the car to the first owner and they ran the options codes and gave me a print out.
1. It does not have the X51 engine...just the standard 355 hp.
2. I got the service records from the dealer that sold me the car...the original owner wasn't gentle with his wheels, banged up the right two and had them refinished.
3. The longer he owned the car the cheaper he got about service. He would take it to Porsche for them to diagnose what it needed, then take the car to an indie and have them do the work. Still the car is in overall very good condition.
4. I have no idea why the original owner put 305 size tires on the rear. They are almost brand new. I talked about it with the dealer and I'll use them up and replace them with 285s.
Recent services include 7/12 serpentine and ribbed V belts changed at 53k, 10/12 air/oil separator replaced 53k, 4/14 air filter changed at 65k, 8/14 passed smog, 10/14 all brake pads and sensors changed 69k.
I'm taking it in to BH Porsche on Thursday (the seller/dealer) for an oil change, new spark plugs (last done five years ago), new belts, brake fluid change, new oil pressure sensor (getting eratic up and down readings), two new and correct front tires, check tiptronic fluid.
1. It does not have the X51 engine...just the standard 355 hp.
2. I got the service records from the dealer that sold me the car...the original owner wasn't gentle with his wheels, banged up the right two and had them refinished.
3. The longer he owned the car the cheaper he got about service. He would take it to Porsche for them to diagnose what it needed, then take the car to an indie and have them do the work. Still the car is in overall very good condition.
4. I have no idea why the original owner put 305 size tires on the rear. They are almost brand new. I talked about it with the dealer and I'll use them up and replace them with 285s.
Recent services include 7/12 serpentine and ribbed V belts changed at 53k, 10/12 air/oil separator replaced 53k, 4/14 air filter changed at 65k, 8/14 passed smog, 10/14 all brake pads and sensors changed 69k.
I'm taking it in to BH Porsche on Thursday (the seller/dealer) for an oil change, new spark plugs (last done five years ago), new belts, brake fluid change, new oil pressure sensor (getting eratic up and down readings), two new and correct front tires, check tiptronic fluid.
Re tires. Yes, 295 fit the car better than 305. Most want wider tires but wider tires are not always better.
It is strange not to be able to pull out a dip stick and look at your oil. The sport exhaust XLF option is a little noisey for my taste but I'll live with it. The Sport Crono Package Plus 640 option code doesn't seem like more than a clock on the dash. The car oozes leather...everywhere...maybe too much...again I thought my 996 was less is more tasteful. I do like the sport suspension option. The car does a better job of smoothing out LA's crapy streets.
More later. Maybe pics of me and a Rolex next to the car.
More later. Maybe pics of me and a Rolex next to the car.
Push Sport for SC Sport and push PASM to revert to PASM Normal (unless appropriate).
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Check tire pressures. Dealers set them for autobahn speeds and max load. Try 33/37PSI cold (68F).
