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Old 04-30-2015 | 10:58 AM
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Hello-
I have been having issues with shifting into first at full clutch (intermittently), when moving from a stop sign or traffic light. Also had issues when trying to shift to second. Other 4 gears (3,4,5,6) plus reverse is all fine shifting into and out of.

I took the car to Ray Catena in Edison, NJ and the technician took a ride with me on Tuesday and experienced not the first issue but the second issue with going into second gear. They have had the car for 2 days and will most likely be looking at it today (Thursday).

Hopefully nothing big and is covered by the CPO.

Since I picked up the car, a 2010 C4S less than a month from another dealer in NY, do I have any claim if the issue is big. I have notified the dealer I purchased from already.

Thoughts are welcome.

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Old 04-30-2015 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by raviis

Hello-
I have been having issues with shifting into first at full clutch (intermittently), when moving from a stop sign or traffic light. Also had issues when trying to shift to second. Other 4 gears (3,4,5,6) plus reverse is all fine shifting into and out of.

I took the car to Ray Catena in Edison, NJ and the technician took a ride with me on Tuesday and experienced not the first issue but the second issue with going into second gear. They have had the car for 2 days and will most likely be looking at it today (Thursday).

Hopefully nothing big and is covered by the CPO.

Since I picked up the car, a 2010 C4S less than a month from another dealer in NY, do I have any claim if the issue is big. I have notified the dealer I purchased from already.

Thoughts are welcome.

Thanks

Ravi

If there proves to be a problem the odds are very good it will be taken care of under the CPO warranty, unless it is something you have inflicted on the car, or transmission, but I do not believe that is the case.

My CPO 2003 Turbo (bought used in 2009 with just 10K miles) developed a transmission selector shaft leak at around 30K miles and the 6-speed was removed and replaced with a new factory sourced transmission under the CPO warranty.

So, let the techs at the car. The techs will take care of this.

It may not be the transmission: One thing I have encountered with my Boxster is a shifting problem getting the transmission into 1st gear and even shifting between other gears. Also, taking off from a stop wasn't as smooth as I had been used to.

Try as I might I was not able to improve this behavior.

But after a brake and clutch fluid flush/bleed the clutch action when taking off from a stop was much improved and all the shifting problems went away. I had let the brake/clutch fluid go just 2.5 years between fluid services. While the brake action was unaffected by the old fluid and not improved by the fresh fluid, the clutch action and shifting which was compromised by the clutch, was markedly improved by the fresh fluid.

That 2 year recommendation to flush/bleed the brake (and if a manual the clutch) fluid is not to be ignored.
Old 04-30-2015 | 11:48 AM
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Sounds like your shifter cables need to be adjusted... Should fix the problem
Old 04-30-2015 | 12:41 PM
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I have read that this is quite a common issue. Mine is also slightly harder to get into first gear but only when cold.

I read in a thread about people who changed to the speed shifter got rid of this problem.

I don't think it's a critical issue but please update the post with how it's solved. I still have full coverage on my car and maybe I can fix it before that expires?
Old 04-30-2015 | 12:52 PM
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I would try the adjustment first.
Old 04-30-2015 | 05:38 PM
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Sounds Like needs new clutch plate or first second gear syncros.
Old 05-01-2015 | 09:08 AM
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The dealer who has the car called me on Thursday to let me know that they have been busy and haven't started on my car.

The service adviser thinks the gear box needs to come out and will be a while.

Old 05-01-2015 | 01:22 PM
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Not sure if that is accurate (but I'm not a mechanic either) but other suggestions for simple shifter cable adjustment has fixed this issue on my cars. Mine is very notchy in first & second when cold and waiting to get my short shifter before I adjust the cables.


Originally Posted by raviis
The dealer who has the car called me on Thursday to let me know that they have been busy and haven't started on my car.

The service adviser thinks the gear box needs to come out and will be a while.

Old 05-01-2015 | 02:37 PM
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Most likely it is a shift cable issue. Less likely, but possible, a dragging clutch from a worn out release bearing. If the synchros were worn out you would hear grinding.

The usual problem of being difficult to get into first is generally a cold transmission combined with a normally balky er, balk-type sychronizer.

Further, I believe both 1st and 2nd gears have steel synchros in these cars.
Old 05-14-2015 | 11:29 AM
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Got a call from the dealer who has my car.



Needs a new gearbox and they are checking with the CPO department to get approval.
Old 05-14-2015 | 01:46 PM
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If it is not covered, seek a second opinion. With that information you can be informed on what to do.
Old 05-14-2015 | 01:56 PM
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I've had similar issues with my transmission, but so far the porsche dealer hasn't been able to recreate the issues. I'm waiting to get closer to the end of my CPO and have them check it one last time.
Old 05-15-2015 | 06:22 AM
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I am getting a new transmission and CPO is covering it.

I wonder if the clutch is usually toast before it gets to the gearbox damage and also please let me know if I need to ask the Pdealer shop to specifically check other related areas for problems at the same time while they are at it?

I have driven the car for less than 300 miles (bought on Apr 6th), so wonder what else the car went through with the previous owner(s).

Thanks for all your help.
Old 05-15-2015 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by raviis
I am getting a new transmission and CPO is covering it.

I wonder if the clutch is usually toast before it gets to the gearbox damage and also please let me know if I need to ask the Pdealer shop to specifically check other related areas for problems at the same time while they are at it?

I have driven the car for less than 300 miles (bought on Apr 6th), so wonder what else the car went through with the previous owner(s).

Thanks for all your help.
OUCh, at least its covered by CPO.

I'm not a grease monkey so this comment might sound dumb...Can you ask the dealer to replace the clutch since they're replacing the tranny? Just pay for parts.
Old 05-15-2015 | 11:43 PM
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Don't be surprised if you have the same issue with the new tranny. Without having driven your car, nobody can tell you how bad yours was shifting but you'll find many threads about these exact symptoms.

And don't sweat what else might be wrong. You're covered by CPO. It's almost inevitable you're going to spend time and/or money on a used car in the first 6 months to get it just right. Or at least plan on it.

I would talk to the dealer about inspecting the clutch and replacing it and seals at your cost for parts (push for a discount of course) if needed while the tranny is out. Even if there's life left in the clutch, you have to weigh out the time left on it vs. the cost of doing it later: parts and labor, which will be on your dime.


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