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Old 04-03-2015 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 5CHN3LL
If you wasted an R8 with a supercharged 997, I'm assuming the R8 was on space-saver spares on an unprepped lane, and a spastic muppet was driving.
Your comments are funny, but WAY off base. The 997 C4s with powerkit is already neck and neck, if not slightly ahead, of the base R8.


Throw a supercharger on the RWD Carrera S which adds 100+ HP, and you'd be well ahead of a lot of the R8s (maybe not the v10, but for sure a lot of the v8s)

So, his comments regarding the R8 could be perfectly valid.

I find it kind of surprising how quickly people will call someone a liar (essentially what you are doing) without having any idea about what they are talking about, or doing any research.
Old 04-03-2015 | 02:38 PM
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More proof for you. A VF 510 equipped car doing an 11.6 at the track


All the v8 R8's are, at very best, mid 12 second cars. Road & Track has some at 13 seconds

http://www.0-60specs.com/audi-r8-0-60-times/
Old 04-03-2015 | 02:47 PM
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I've put two different super chargers on my NB Miata (not at the same time). The Miata motor is already built for FI, has oil squirters for the under side of the pistons, kind of under stressed, iron block, etc.

Seems like the 997.1 is much closer to its all motor limits than the Mazda BP-4W. So less margins built into the flat six. A 7.1C2S is pretty quick bone stock.
Old 04-03-2015 | 06:33 PM
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Modified cars are harder to resell and fetch less on resale.
I recommend track time to get the most out of a car- you gain a lot from better driving skill. As an instructor I see there is usually more car than driver.
Old 04-03-2015 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by shardul
Would installing a supercharger kit cause engine problems down the line.
Your profile doesn't say where you are but if in CA, you can forget ever passing smog. And you can't sell a car and transfer title without a freshly passed smog.

Regardless of the registration issues, why in the world wold you do this when you can just get a tt? And if you can't afford a tt, then you can't afford a hopped up .1
Old 04-03-2015 | 06:41 PM
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Yup - I was completely wrong about the HP numbers for the low-end R8.

Originally Posted by halo777
Your comments are funny, but WAY off base. The 997 C4s with powerkit is already neck and neck, if not slightly ahead, of the base R8.

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I find it kind of surprising how quickly people will call someone a liar (essentially what you are doing) without having any idea about what they are talking about, or doing any research.
That's the wonder of the Internet - with anonymity and the decreased likelihood of getting punched in the mouth, decorum goes out the window. Plus, I'm an a55hole, and that doesn't help AT ALL.
Old 04-03-2015 | 06:47 PM
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As far as CA registration, you're spot on. Finding a CARB-certified power-adder is tough.

As far as WHY - because you CAN. I won't even admit how much money I dumped into hitting the 300WHP mark on a $20K import, happily voiding the warranty and ensuring that even a blind smog tech with no arms would fail the car. But taking something and making it better - with your own hands - is great fun, more fun to some people than just selling a car and buying a faster one. Taking a wire harness apart and soldering in a piggyback tuner, spending saturdays at a dyno working on a safe but productive tune while trying not to get blown up by nearby hondas, tinkering with intercooling setups, getting gasoline showers when you forget to depressurize the fuel line and pop out an injector...you know, FUN stuff.

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Your profile doesn't say where you are but if in CA, you can forget ever passing smog. And you can't sell a car and transfer title without a freshly passed smog.

Regardless of the registration issues, why in the world wold you do this when you can just get a tt? And if you can't afford a tt, then you can't afford a hopped up .1
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It may cost you some extra initially, but I'll bet you'll save money long term (think catastrophic failure) if you buy a used 997 Turbo rather than supercharge a 997.1

As a side bonus the turbo should retain good resale, while a supercharged 997.1 will be a questionable value down the road.
Old 04-03-2015 | 07:01 PM
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If you find a community of like-minded people, selling a modified car isn't as hard as you'd think...and it's a whole lot less shady than putting the car back to stock and selling it to some poor slob who doesn't know you've been running it boosted for years.
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Old 04-03-2015 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 5CHN3LL
Yup - I was completely wrong about the HP numbers for the low-end R8.

That's the wonder of the Internet - with anonymity and the decreased likelihood of getting punched in the mouth, decorum goes out the window. Plus, I'm an a55hole, and that doesn't help AT ALL.
Hey, wouldnt be the first I'd be called one either. ..not even the first time today (not kidding)

I was surprised to find the R8 numbers myself, and how closely a 997 C4s powerkit car was matched.
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Every time you ask the masses about modifications outside of the mainstream, everyone screams about resale value and reliability. Well no poop sherlock, anything you do to your car has potential reliability issues, some more than others.
I'm not rich, but i still never worry about resale value. I bought the car and i want to enjoy it to its fullest. I do not buy a depreciating asset and then worry about how much money i'm going to get back. Just seems silly.
There are people that have done it and are happy. if its something you want to do and are willing to accept the risk of undermining your engine reliability, go for it. Don't go crazy with boost, enjoy the ride, worry about things later. Life is too short, enjoy it.

I personally agree with statement made above, doing modifications to your car is much more rewarding than just buying a faster one.
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Old 04-04-2015 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Conrad
Modified cars are harder to resell and fetch less on resale.
Not to mention, most buyers are going to look for unmolested cars. After limiting buyers, it might take longer to get that sale. You will never ever recover the money spent on these mods.
Old 04-04-2015 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam Conrad
I recommend track time to get the most out of a car- you gain a lot from better driving skill. As an instructor I see there is usually more car than driver.
Of course, this is posted quite a bit on many car forums. While what you say is true, modding is not always about the speed. It's adds an extra dimension to the hobby of automotive enthusiasm. I do very little to my 911's but mod the crap outta my Miata...no bling just functional stuff. I enjoy working on the cars and customizing them to my personal preferences.
Old 04-04-2015 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by malahhaor
Every time you ask the masses about modifications outside of the mainstream, everyone screams about resale value and reliability. Well no poop sherlock, anything you do to your car has potential reliability issues, some more than others.
I'm not rich, but i still never worry about resale value. I bought the car and i want to enjoy it to its fullest. I do not buy a depreciating asset and then worry about how much money i'm going to get back. Just seems silly.
There are people that have done it and are happy. if its something you want to do and are willing to accept the risk of undermining your engine reliability, go for it. Don't go crazy with boost, enjoy the ride, worry about things later. Life is too short, enjoy it.
I've got no issues with folks modifying their cars. To the contrary, I've never owned a Porsche that I have not modified. The question was specifically posed by the OP - "Would installing a supercharger kit cause engine problems down the line."

I think what you are seeing in this thread is folks saying they do not believe this particular modification carries a small amount of risk. Rather many here (including me) are saying this particular mod carries a big risk of catastrophic failure (my opinion of course).

In other words, I don't see any posts saying "don't do any mods", rather think real hard before you introduce boost on an engine that already has a reputation for questionable reliability.
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thanks for all the comments!


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