Too Low Mileage?
11-07-2014, 03:50 AM
#16
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The dealer did just disclose that there are "wear" issues with both the temp control and fan control. Really odd "wear" that appears isolated to these two controls. I'm rather concerned because the car lived in a hot, humid, salty area so corrosion is a fear. Anyone ever seen anything like the attached?
I bought an 06 997S a few weeks ago with 6000 miles and regular service and have been addressing over a dozen items:
1. Service last month did not include serpentine belt. I just had that done, and the belt tensioners required replacement too.
2. A/C was venting condensation onto passenger footwell area. A drainage tube was clogged.
3. A/C was throwing too much air up towards the windshield causing fogging. This has yet to be corrected.
4. A/C was tossing out bits of black foam particles. Dealer service addressed this.
5. Sliders on A/C control unit were severely discolored. I ordered anew head unit last week.
6. Radio buttons were gummy. I ordered two replacements from Suncoast yesterday.
7. Floormats were OK but not great...just replaced these.
8. The drain tube from the sunroof to the rear drivers side was clogged causing the head liner to get wet.
9. Brakes feel wooden although brake fluid was just replaced and brakes are not worn.
10. The digital display at the bottom of the central gauge in the gauge cluster stopped working as I drove from the dealer to my house. I ordered a replacement last week.
11. The tires were still the OEMs--- a safety hazard since they were 8 years old.
12. A few minor scratches on the center console (will be matching the interior color to get an acrilyc paint to apply for touch ups).
13. The pollen filter required replacement...just done.
14. The red portion of the seatbelt latch receiver has discolored for all belts. Will revive if possible or replace.
15.Given the headliner and footwell leaks, the car had a musty smell (better now but still an issue)...looking for alternatives to address this (will be trying fabric softener sheets, baking soda and hot lemon water).
16. One cupholder above the glovebox is broken...new cupholder ordered today.
Can't wait to get all these items fully sorted out.
1. Service last month did not include serpentine belt. I just had that done, and the belt tensioners required replacement too.
2. A/C was venting condensation onto passenger footwell area. A drainage tube was clogged.
3. A/C was throwing too much air up towards the windshield causing fogging. This has yet to be corrected.
4. A/C was tossing out bits of black foam particles. Dealer service addressed this.
5. Sliders on A/C control unit were severely discolored. I ordered anew head unit last week.
6. Radio buttons were gummy. I ordered two replacements from Suncoast yesterday.
7. Floormats were OK but not great...just replaced these.
8. The drain tube from the sunroof to the rear drivers side was clogged causing the head liner to get wet.
9. Brakes feel wooden although brake fluid was just replaced and brakes are not worn.
10. The digital display at the bottom of the central gauge in the gauge cluster stopped working as I drove from the dealer to my house. I ordered a replacement last week.
11. The tires were still the OEMs--- a safety hazard since they were 8 years old.
12. A few minor scratches on the center console (will be matching the interior color to get an acrilyc paint to apply for touch ups).
13. The pollen filter required replacement...just done.
14. The red portion of the seatbelt latch receiver has discolored for all belts. Will revive if possible or replace.
15.Given the headliner and footwell leaks, the car had a musty smell (better now but still an issue)...looking for alternatives to address this (will be trying fabric softener sheets, baking soda and hot lemon water).
16. One cupholder above the glovebox is broken...new cupholder ordered today.
Can't wait to get all these items fully sorted out.
Point is that even when someone sweats the details to keep the car in great condition (my climate and radio buttons/***** look unused, for example), time still passes and stuff happens. When it's time-warp mileage, pay a premium for condition and not the number on the odometer. Condition includes mechanical and cosmetic, and a good PPI covers both.
SJP3303, water intrusion on my daily driver became an issue due to a faulty design of the pollen filter housing, and resulted in a big pool of water in the passenger footwell. The water was removed, the carpet cleaned with an extractor, and then the musty smell was removed using a product like this:
http://www.autogeek.net/odor-bomb-car-fogger.html
Good luck!
11-07-2014, 04:48 AM
#17
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I got a 07 with 7700 miles. Owner has records of annual oil changes plus other services. Got a clean PPI report. Got a very low price on the warranty from Fidelity due to the low miles - 5yrs/60k miles. Been driving the car for months now and no problems (knock on wood).
See the car. Drive the car. Get a PPI, and if its clean, pull the trigger.
See the car. Drive the car. Get a PPI, and if its clean, pull the trigger.
11-07-2014, 09:05 AM
#18
Race Car
Three different Porsche service experts told me to stay away from any 997.1 that was driven less than 4-5000 miles a year. That one is in serious risk of IMS issues.
The gummy **** are from cars that have been driven mostly by women. Women use hand lotion daily. The lotions cause the black coating on the ***** to deteriorate. This is according to my friend who's the service manager at a Porsche dealership. He is also one of those referenced above.
The gummy **** are from cars that have been driven mostly by women. Women use hand lotion daily. The lotions cause the black coating on the ***** to deteriorate. This is according to my friend who's the service manager at a Porsche dealership. He is also one of those referenced above.
11-07-2014, 09:37 AM
#19
The radio buttons can be replaced cheaply $30: http://www.suncoastparts.com/product..._Interiorradio
The AC unit buttons are a different story. You cannot buy the buttons alone. There are plenty of threads about repairing them that do a pretty good job, just not perfect. Replacing the whole unit is $600 http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...7S_electronics
Both are DIY - really simple to do.
The AC unit buttons are a different story. You cannot buy the buttons alone. There are plenty of threads about repairing them that do a pretty good job, just not perfect. Replacing the whole unit is $600 http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...7S_electronics
Both are DIY - really simple to do.
11-07-2014, 10:33 AM
#21
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Ditto for all these on my '05 with 57K miles. #3 is directly related to #4 (the foam gone from the flapper that closes off the defroster outlets when the air is being directed through the dash vents). What did the dealer service do? If all they did was vacuum out the outlets, the problem will come back. Mine stopped blowing chunks for almost a year then started back up again. Dealer said to fix it they would have to take the whole dash apart. I opted to not do it because every time I had a dealer do that to a car the dash rattled and squeaked from then on.
Testor's model car paint for the red latches worked well. Same for the red frunk latch that turned pink on me (it also developed a shrinkage crack which I filled with resin before painting)
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Testor's model car paint for the red latches worked well. Same for the red frunk latch that turned pink on me (it also developed a shrinkage crack which I filled with resin before painting)
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Thanks for the Testor's model car paint tip...will give that a shot.
11-08-2014, 01:28 PM
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Three different Porsche service experts told me to stay away from any 997.1 that was driven less than 4-5000 miles a year. That one is in serious risk of IMS issues.
The gummy **** are from cars that have been driven mostly by women. Women use hand lotion daily. The lotions cause the black coating on the ***** to deteriorate. This is according to my friend who's the service manager at a Porsche dealership. He is also one of those referenced above.
The gummy **** are from cars that have been driven mostly by women. Women use hand lotion daily. The lotions cause the black coating on the ***** to deteriorate. This is according to my friend who's the service manager at a Porsche dealership. He is also one of those referenced above.
11-08-2014, 01:31 PM
#23
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11-09-2014, 01:24 PM
#24
Fascinating comment about the woman's lotion. Another idea might be long fingernails like a "dancer" might have. 
Anyway...it seems like if you have a service history, the PPI goes well and the price is right, you can make this work. Can you tell if it was garage kept?
Or, move on to a car that has complete service history. Mine was an 09 with 8500 miles. All good with my PPI and so far so good.
Anyway...it seems like if you have a service history, the PPI goes well and the price is right, you can make this work. Can you tell if it was garage kept? Or, move on to a car that has complete service history. Mine was an 09 with 8500 miles. All good with my PPI and so far so good.
11-09-2014, 02:20 PM
#25
Overall I think this IMS fear-monging on the 997.1 is overblown.
11-10-2014, 12:00 AM
#26
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Thanks again...just did the leather yesterday...Lexol cleaner and conditioner while a leatherique order arrives for use after the odor bomb Today I wrapped the scuffed doorsill and fusebox cover plastic in a CF wrap. Checked the freshness of the battery (found a Jan 14 in-service date for the AC Delco battery, not bad) and attached a battery tender to top it off. Also cleaned up the frunk plastics and everything I could reach underneath them. Can't wait to finish my laundry list of details, but it's getting there...
11-10-2014, 09:45 AM
#27
Racer
I guess I differ from most but, I really would rather have a well cared for 70K car than a car that spent most of a long life being unused. These things are machines, and they tend to run and last longer when they are exercised. Do I want my car to always appear new? Absolutely, but like most everything it's give and take...
I noticed where you live. It now makes sense why the miles are so low...
I noticed where you live. It now makes sense why the miles are so low...