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Old 09-11-2014 | 05:59 PM
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Thoughts on purchase price for a (997.2) 2009, White/Sand beige, 911 Carrera, 31800 miles; clean ppi, PDK, leather, navigation system. Carfax shows "minor accident" (saw police report showing damage as $500 estimate and only to rear protruding bumper area; just paint perhaps?) Car was Porsche Certified for sale about 6 months AFTER the accident. Very pristine condition.

Appreciate thoughts on fair price to pay.

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Old 09-11-2014 | 06:39 PM
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$47.5k
Old 09-11-2014 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by marriotm
$47.5k
Sounds about right for a base.

If accident was worse it might be worth less.
Old 09-11-2014 | 10:06 PM
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Thanks for your thoughts. I welcome other input as well.

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Old 09-12-2014 | 08:44 AM
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The only way to really know the "value" is to obtain the Manheim auction prices, nationally, for the particular model (S or Base, or Cabriolet variant). This price will represent the " price floor". Any dollar above this is gravy/profit and dealerships/sellers will try and convince you that because of x-option it is worth the extra extra money.

You will see in the auction price sheets, that options mean nothing (other than color, transmission).

Regarding a bad CarFax, there are those here that will run away screaming from that. I understand their concerns, but I purchased an '09 with a bad CarFax and got an unbelievable deal. I drive my Porsche and keep them for a long time so repairing a bumper or whatever is no biggie to me at all and I see it as a way of getting way more for you dollar.

I found, via the local Porsche club, a speed shop to dump the computer to check for overrevs and inspect the car..... it came out with raves. I have been very happy now putting around 40K miles on the car.

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Old 09-12-2014 | 10:08 AM
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Manheim average auction is $49,400, estimated retail $53,000. Mileage 25,500. Base 911.
Old 09-12-2014 | 10:26 AM
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I got my 2011 white/black manual. Original msrp was 88/89 with 33k mikes about 6 months ago from a dealer with a 2 year cpo for 57. No carfax
Accidents.
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Originally Posted by AlexKeyWest
Manheim average auction is $49,400, estimated retail $53,000. Mileage 25,500. Base 911.

That seems high to me. I don't have any data to back it up, but what I see for asking prices from dealers, $49,400 seems too high. I would expect low 40's to even high 30's.

If I'm wrong though, that's great for the C2's.
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I know of a dealer selling a 2010 C2, pretty basic car, I think the MSRP was 88k with all optons and it's listed around $44k. However its a shade over 50k miles and I know that's a milestone number.
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I looked it up this am on Manheim MMA, a dealer only resource. Please note the miles were 25k. A 50k car would probably be significantly lower. Manheim is the Bible for dealers, especially for high line vehicles.
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Originally Posted by AlexKeyWest
I looked it up this am on Manheim MMA, a dealer only resource. Please note the miles were 25k. A 50k car would probably be significantly lower. Manheim is the Bible for dealers, especially for high line vehicles.

Yep, I'm familiar with Manheim. I'm just surprised a dealer paid close to $50k for a C2, even if it does only have 25k miles.
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Looks like a similar one sold on ebay or $49,850 (buy it now) with 33,115 miles at the end of August 2014. Basalt black/tan, PDK.
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Originally Posted by ropo
Looks like a similar one sold on ebay or $49,850 (buy it now) with 33,115 miles at the end of August 2014. Basalt black/tan, PDK.

If that sale was from a dealer, that's a good example of how I doubt the Mannheim price for a base C2 with 25k miles sold for $49.4 is the norm. It seems like an overpriced bid by someone.
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Yes, it was a dealer sale. (Not a Porsche dealer, however).
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you can question all you want, but Manheim MMA is the source. I posted the values off the site for your information. It is what it is. If you want me to search other parameters, let me know.


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