Oil Change on Ramps.
08-01-2014, 07:28 PM
#31
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I raise the rear with 2 X 4 stacked up under the tires, and it provides me with plenty of space to work. Also, my car is lowered.
08-01-2014, 08:29 PM
#32
Finally spent the money on Jackpoint Jack Stands and craftsman torque wrench after I bought my 997. Always put the 996 on 2x12's and fought to see the the oil filter canister and wondered if it was going on right.
Now it is a pleasure to change the oil and I use the torque wrench on the drain plug and oil filter canister (and of course wheel lugs, etc...) ...just feels right.
Now it is a pleasure to change the oil and I use the torque wrench on the drain plug and oil filter canister (and of course wheel lugs, etc...) ...just feels right.
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tegraphile (03-02-2021)
08-01-2014, 10:54 PM
#33
Drifting
According to the manuals in PIWIS, this engine holds 10L but only 7.5L are drained during an oil change. Tilting the car like this, I got about 8.25L out. So it certainly isn't leaving extra in the engine; quite the opposite.
On a related note: why the ^$^@#@#% did Porsche design the 987.2 so that the only way to check the oil level is with the engine idling at operational temperature? Why the @^$#^ would they design it so you HAVE to run the car for 5-10 minutes to find out if you over/under-filled the oil? Is 997.2 the same way?
Changing your own oil and performing basic maintenance is not indicative of trying to save a buck. The whole reason why many of us enjoy these cars is because we want to be engaged in the whole thing.
I cant add to the ramps debate but I'm quite sure that the extended time that many of us let it drain is likely equivalent if not better then what a dealer would achieve.
When I change my oil on my 997 now or when I did valve adjustments on my 86 or plugs on my 914, I know that I verified the proper gap, tightened each bolt to the proper torque or added just the right amount of oil. Now- can I do it as fast as a real wrench no. are my tools as expensive, no. is my garage floor as clean...no. but honestly that time spent doing those tasks -to me that's what this hobby is all about.
I cant add to the ramps debate but I'm quite sure that the extended time that many of us let it drain is likely equivalent if not better then what a dealer would achieve.
When I change my oil on my 997 now or when I did valve adjustments on my 86 or plugs on my 914, I know that I verified the proper gap, tightened each bolt to the proper torque or added just the right amount of oil. Now- can I do it as fast as a real wrench no. are my tools as expensive, no. is my garage floor as clean...no. but honestly that time spent doing those tasks -to me that's what this hobby is all about.
08-04-2014, 04:42 PM
#35
Drifting
If I had the room in the garage I'd maybe consider 4 stands, but it just takes longer, and my garage doesn't have a lot of space to work with. Its already the most difficult part of the job - getting the jack aligned and seated with the jack point - that I don't want to do it twice as many times as absolutely necessary. In an ideal garage I'd have a scissor lift in the floor and its a non-issue. But I have so little space on the sides (other cars, pillars, tool boxes), that I can easily jack the back end, but the sides at the front end are then blocked from getting the jack under.
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964Luftballoon (03-01-2021)
03-01-2021, 09:40 AM
#36
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Dealer vs DIY
At a Porsche dealership, I have had....
1. Technician put too much oil in after an oil change.
2. Three visits for a $380 (discounted price) Alignment, and still couldn't get my steering wheel centered. I had to give up.
3. Missing bolts on the undercarriage cover/panels.
I believe they had the right tools and training. But they also cut corners, and didn't do it 100% right. "That **** just don't fly for me" either.
1. Technician put too much oil in after an oil change.
2. Three visits for a $380 (discounted price) Alignment, and still couldn't get my steering wheel centered. I had to give up.
3. Missing bolts on the undercarriage cover/panels.
I believe they had the right tools and training. But they also cut corners, and didn't do it 100% right. "That **** just don't fly for me" either.
03-01-2021, 10:35 AM
#37
Three Wheelin'
Just get Quick Jacks and be done with it .... You will find as I have you will use them more than you think due to their ease of use ... Stop dinking around and do it right 
