New m4 or gtr
Three Wheelin'
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From: Napa Valley, CA
If you are really on the fence. That is, equally torn between the GTR and M4 with all the attendant pluses and minuses, I'd say the M4. The BMW platform is tried and true, there are a lot of them out there and servicing, mod'ing (if you are into that) are well established. The GTR, while nice ("nice" b/c this is a 997 forum after all and even if it is great, which it probably is, I'd be loath to publicly admit it) is more of a boutique car and likely harder to service it's hiccups. I saw an M4 about a week ago, nice looking car - although not as nice looking as the E46 iteration - but I tend to be a bit retro.
If I were you I'd be agonizing over the decision. Good luck parsing through the details!
If I were you I'd be agonizing over the decision. Good luck parsing through the details!
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From: PA & FL - '12 Carrera GTS
If you are really on the fence. That is, equally torn between the GTR and M4 with all the attendant pluses and minuses, I'd say the M4. The BMW platform is tried and true, there are a lot of them out there and servicing, mod'ing (if you are into that) are well established. The GTR, while nice ("nice" b/c this is a 997 forum after all and even if it is great, which it probably is, I'd be loath to publicly admit it) is more of a boutique car and likely harder to service it's hiccups. I saw an M4 about a week ago, nice looking car - although not as nice looking as the E46 iteration - but I tend to be a bit retro.
If I were you I'd be agonizing over the decision. Good luck parsing through the details!
If I were you I'd be agonizing over the decision. Good luck parsing through the details!
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From: London, UK
I think the M3/M4 will be some machine...isn't it 100kg lighter and yet with more power/torque? Can't see how BMW will mess that up, especially with the great looks.
I appreciate the GTR, but it is really not special to be in and it is pretty huge too. For me, the image of the average GTR owner is not exactly desirable either. I guess the fact i was willing to pay far more for a Turbo S shows how much i was turned off by the GTR!
I appreciate the GTR, but it is really not special to be in and it is pretty huge too. For me, the image of the average GTR owner is not exactly desirable either. I guess the fact i was willing to pay far more for a Turbo S shows how much i was turned off by the GTR!
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Three Wheelin'
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From: Napa Valley, CA
Mule/Test Car, I guess I could be wrong. But it (the car) was in Napa on Main Street across from Morimoto. I was on my bike and the car looked a bit different for a BMW Coupe. Stopped, and it was definitely badged M4. Of course the Badge may not necessarily mean it was an M4 and I don't know enough about the subtleties of M design to say for sure but it was spanking new and this particular spot (across from Morimoto's) seems to be where very high end cars (=well connected people paying $20 for two pieces of sushi) congregate. Off the top of my head, in this spot, I've seen numerous Ferraris, Aston Martins and Audi R8s, a few Bentleys, a MacLaren MP4 12c, an absurdly exotic Benz that I did not recognize and by comparison a pedestrian GT2 RS (which under any other circumstance would be anything but).
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From: Atlanta
No true about the image of GTR owners. Most drivers in the GTR that I've seen are older groups, either business owners or high level execs in companies...to be honest I haven't really seen that many racer boys in GTRs. They are expensive after all...especially to service.
I do actually see more "wannabe and arrogant" drivers in BMW M3s... different race and age but all share the same attitude
I do actually see more "wannabe and arrogant" drivers in BMW M3s... different race and age but all share the same attitude
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From: Bogota / Navarre Beach
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From: Bogota / Navarre Beach
Personally I would never buy a 90,000 dollar Nissan GTR.
Does the new M3/M4 come with a turbo/V6?...no thanks. Are they going to use the stereo to create fake engine noises like the M5?
Much rather have an E46 or E92 M3 over these choices.
Does the new M3/M4 come with a turbo/V6?...no thanks. Are they going to use the stereo to create fake engine noises like the M5?
Much rather have an E46 or E92 M3 over these choices.
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Three Wheelin'
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From: Portland OR
You'll be back in a 911 in no time.
My vote would be the M2 when it comes out. That's going to be a real M car. Not a heavy wannabe sports car. GTR is a big obese whale imo (my brother has one and I always make fun of it when it sits next to my 911)
My vote would be the M2 when it comes out. That's going to be a real M car. Not a heavy wannabe sports car. GTR is a big obese whale imo (my brother has one and I always make fun of it when it sits next to my 911)
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It's been said before and I'll say it again 
I'd keep your car and add a used E46 to your collection. Last normally aspirated M 6 cylinder and it's a peach (if a little maintenance heavy , vanos, specific oil, hub sprockets ). I have an M Coupe and between it and the 911 I feel I have one of the best cars produced from both BMW and Porsche.
Plus if you get a loved E46 with low-ish miles, and don't drive it too much - it won't depreciate much and may start to appreciate in a few years.
I'd keep your car and add a used E46 to your collection. Last normally aspirated M 6 cylinder and it's a peach (if a little maintenance heavy , vanos, specific oil, hub sprockets ). I have an M Coupe and between it and the 911 I feel I have one of the best cars produced from both BMW and Porsche.Plus if you get a loved E46 with low-ish miles, and don't drive it too much - it won't depreciate much and may start to appreciate in a few years.