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Old 03-13-2014, 10:31 PM
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Default Just had IMS failure on 2005 997

My car was one of the last few cars with IMS issue, so luckily I am covered thru the IMS lawsuit for full engine replacement (verified by VIN). Wondering if folks here have experience on covered engine replacement. Is it a completely new engine or a refurbished one? Any things to watch out for? should I get anything additional done while the dealer is doing this. My car is low mileage - 34k, original owner.

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Old 03-13-2014, 10:36 PM
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Full engine replacement? I thought Porsche was only covering 25% of the cost?
Old 03-13-2014, 10:36 PM
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I am no pro on the subject but you could always have your clutch worked on!
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to the op; goto the ims settlement website and see what category your car falls under re re-reimbursement. it's dependent upon milage, number of owners, so-on/so-forth; and you will only be getting around 25-50% re-reimbursement coverage only i think.

also, did you not consider getting the bearing swapped out to the LN one?

another 997.1 engine blew on 6spdonline today as well. this is ridiculous.
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You get a rebuilt engine, but with all new accessories (water pump, alternator, aos, plugs, coil packs, fluids, etc). The "new" engine will have the later, larger ims bearing. At 34k miles your clutch should be fine, but there is no extra labor to swap in a new one during the engine change, so ask them to look it over carefully. The clutch pack is probably about $1100 at a dealer for the parts.

In a way, it's the best thing that could have happened since you are covered 100%. You get a "new" engine with all the latest upgrades, plus all the fixin's that come on the new engine. You'll probably save money in maintenance since you won't have to pay to replace some those item, many of which are coming due.
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re maintenance 'while you are at it' i would double check things like

-clutch
-aos
-waterpump
-serpintine belt
-coil packs/plugs
-tranny fluid i would swap

very sorry to hear this.

EDIT - looks like muffinman beat me to it re most of these items.
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Originally Posted by myw
to the op; goto the ims settlement website and see what category your car falls under re re-reimbursement. it's dependent upon milage, number of owners, so-on/so-forth; and you will only be getting around 25-50% re-reimbursement coverage only i think. also, did you not consider getting the bearing swapped out to the LN one? another 997.1 engine blew on 6spdonline today as well. this is ridiculous.
I believe the original owner up to 50k miles and 10 years gets 100% coverage.
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sorry muffinman, but how do you know the OP is covered 100%?

EDIT - LOL you beat me to it again, we seem to have a habit of hitting 'send' at almost exact same times.

Originally Posted by MuffinMan
In a way, it's the best thing that could have happened since you are covered 100%. You get a "new" engine with all the latest upgrades, plus all the fixin's that come on the new engine. You'll probably save money in maintenance since you won't have to pay to replace some those item, many of which are coming due.
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Originally Posted by myw
sorry muffinman, but how do you know the OP is covered 100%? EDIT - LOL you beat me to it again, we seem to have a habit of hitting 'send' at almost exact same times.
Unfortunately, I know way more about this topic than I'd like to, as mine failed a few months ago.

Step 13 on this site shows a chart with a breakdown for coverage. http://www.imsporschesettlement.com/faqs/
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Welcome to the forum imsfails, sorry your first post is about your ims going out.
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They will prob replace the Rms but double check.

Id add a nice intake and exhaust !

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muffinman you are right about 100% coverage. Last year I had the shift cable break and 2 months ago I had a water pump failure. This led to search for "common failures for 997". That is when I learned all about IMS. I had ignored the lawsuit letter as I thought it was just a lawyer trying to make some money. I was pretty shocked how Porsche is handling this issue and wrote a big letter to them asking to cover the preventive fix from LN. After all they proudly claim that 2/3 of porsche ever built are still running. But I got a response that they can't do anything unless IMS actually fails. So I decided to wait until March 2015 (when my 10 year limit passes) or clutch replacement before doing the LN fix.

Today was indeed a lucky day. I don't have to be anxious anymore thinking when my IMS would fail.

Thanks for the suggestions on things to get done!
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Originally Posted by MuffinMan
You get a rebuilt engine, but with all new accessories (water pump, alternator, aos, plugs, coil packs, fluids, etc). The "new" engine will have the later, larger ims bearing. At 34k miles your clutch should be fine, but there is no extra labor to swap in a new one during the engine change, so ask them to look it over carefully. The clutch pack is probably about $1100 at a dealer for the parts.

In a way, it's the best thing that could have happened since you are covered 100%. You get a "new" engine with all the latest upgrades, plus all the fixin's that come on the new engine. You'll probably save money in maintenance since you won't have to pay to replace some those item, many of which are coming due.
Is this new engine is same as 2006 and above 997.1 type engines? What prevents it from failing again?
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This thread is very entertaining!!! In some way, it's nice to know the 997 section is as gullable as the 996 section...carry on suckers...
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Originally Posted by Pors968

Is this new engine is same as 2006 and above 997.1 type engines? What prevents it from failing again?
The new engine gets the upgraded IMS bearing.


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