Are the 2005 997's that bad?
#46
Racer
Thread Starter
Before I bring this thread to a close, I want to thank everyone for their input.
After the PPI was performed, I decided to return to car and null the contract. The PPI came up relatively clean, except for some over-rev issues I was not comfortable with. Overall the car was beautiful, but I only would feel comfortable if I had the extended warranty or the IMS replaced. Either one of these would have put me another $5k into the car.
So, I'm back to owning a 996 and a 986. It makes more logical sense to sell the 996 straight out and bank that money. From there I can still enjoy the 986 and keep my eye open for another 997 that has the above issues already addressed and maybe even fewer miles.
After the PPI was performed, I decided to return to car and null the contract. The PPI came up relatively clean, except for some over-rev issues I was not comfortable with. Overall the car was beautiful, but I only would feel comfortable if I had the extended warranty or the IMS replaced. Either one of these would have put me another $5k into the car.
So, I'm back to owning a 996 and a 986. It makes more logical sense to sell the 996 straight out and bank that money. From there I can still enjoy the 986 and keep my eye open for another 997 that has the above issues already addressed and maybe even fewer miles.
#47
Poseur
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Keep in mind always that the 997 is roughly a $100,000 car. As such, some parts will wind up pricy, but the reliability is quite high. Since you were getting it at such a low entry price ($30K) you can expect to have to put some more into it to bring it up to speed.
Some time back forum members on the 911 forum would often discuss the fact that any 911 is basically a $20,000 car--if you buy it for $15K, you will need to put another $5K into it to make it run right. The same is true for all the others, except with the newer cars that figure will naturally be higher.
Some time back forum members on the 911 forum would often discuss the fact that any 911 is basically a $20,000 car--if you buy it for $15K, you will need to put another $5K into it to make it run right. The same is true for all the others, except with the newer cars that figure will naturally be higher.
#48
I think it's a smart move, no need to rush. There's plenty of cars out there, and they aren't going anywhere, and prices can only get lower.
I see you're in Atlanta. Let's get out and run sometime
I see you're in Atlanta. Let's get out and run sometime
#49
Racer
Thread Starter
You're right, better to take my time and make the right decision. Although I really liked that 997, I still think I would miss that open top, roadster feel.
I'm up in N. Fulton, so let me know if you're ever in the area.
I'm up in N. Fulton, so let me know if you're ever in the area.
#52
Racer
Thread Starter
Can't say it's fear mongering that got he best of me, as I own 2 M96 vehicles at the moment. In the end, this one just didn't feel right.....beautiful car or not.
#53
Pro
Also, my local Porsche will offer an all inclusive 2 year warranty for $5000 that covers everything except normal maintainence items. Add that to the $30k purchase price and it doesn't appear to be that bad of a deal. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
You can go that route and have total peace of mind for the next 24 months. Or you can spend half that amount and be proactive and get an upgraded IMSB. Which would help when you attempt to sell it.
You can go that route and have total peace of mind for the next 24 months. Or you can spend half that amount and be proactive and get an upgraded IMSB. Which would help when you attempt to sell it.
#58
Racer
Avoid the cars with Tiptronic. The oil pressure runs off the RPM, and the tiptronic shifts to early to save fuel and therefore the Oil pressure stays in the 1-2bar range. This is not enough to provide lubrication for the bearings.
With a stick, most drivers shifts higher and run at higher RPM, 3-5000, which increases the oil pressure to 4-5bar range.
There are no scientific evidence for backing this opinion. :-)
With a stick, most drivers shifts higher and run at higher RPM, 3-5000, which increases the oil pressure to 4-5bar range.
There are no scientific evidence for backing this opinion. :-)
#59
Just another data point here:
I bought my 2005 C2S about a year and a half ago with 8,800 miles on the clock (not a typo). After 5 weeks, I had the IMS go out and take the engine with it. Luckily for me, I had purchased an aftermarket warranty through the local dealer 3 weeks prior. Happily, the engine was replaced with an new 08 engine at 0 cost to me. The repair would have cost $21,000+ if there had been no warranty.
Is the IMS issue blown out of proportion? Probably but my car is proof that it can and does happen.
I bought my 2005 C2S about a year and a half ago with 8,800 miles on the clock (not a typo). After 5 weeks, I had the IMS go out and take the engine with it. Luckily for me, I had purchased an aftermarket warranty through the local dealer 3 weeks prior. Happily, the engine was replaced with an new 08 engine at 0 cost to me. The repair would have cost $21,000+ if there had been no warranty.
Is the IMS issue blown out of proportion? Probably but my car is proof that it can and does happen.
#60
Just another data point here:
I bought my 2005 C2S about a year and a half ago with 8,800 miles on the clock (not a typo). After 5 weeks, I had the IMS go out and take the engine with it. Luckily for me, I had purchased an aftermarket warranty through the local dealer 3 weeks prior. Happily, the engine was replaced with an new 08 engine at 0 cost to me. The repair would have cost $21,000+ if there had been no warranty.
Is the IMS issue blown out of proportion? Probably but my car is proof that it can and does happen.
I bought my 2005 C2S about a year and a half ago with 8,800 miles on the clock (not a typo). After 5 weeks, I had the IMS go out and take the engine with it. Luckily for me, I had purchased an aftermarket warranty through the local dealer 3 weeks prior. Happily, the engine was replaced with an new 08 engine at 0 cost to me. The repair would have cost $21,000+ if there had been no warranty.
Is the IMS issue blown out of proportion? Probably but my car is proof that it can and does happen.