Death of the PPI?
03-01-2014, 10:50 AM
#16
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Hmmm... an 09 997.2? 2009 was the last year of the 997.1 Mezger, updated PCM etc... Did they make an early 997.2 DFI in that year too? A PPI is a must!
CRAP! Sorry about this post. I though I was on the TT page. Yep - 09 was the first year of the DFI 997.2 NA cars.
CRAP! Sorry about this post. I though I was on the TT page. Yep - 09 was the first year of the DFI 997.2 NA cars.
03-01-2014, 12:03 PM
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03-01-2014, 12:41 PM
#20
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OT
In light of doing PPI's without liability, I am now doing PPI's on 911's and Gellardos. I am fully certifiable with an impressive array of Harbor Freight tools. Mandatory 6-week test drive. 
03-01-2014, 02:29 PM
#21
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Call Marc at Redline Services (310) 280-0700. His shop will do a thorough inspection, but you will not likely get anything on paper, he will probably ask that the seller pay for the inspection--or that you pay cash in advance.
As others have commented, liability and stupid consumers have created this issue. Marc and others told me stories about people blaming the inspector for things they later discovered or things that went wrong with their car. Some people cancelling payment on checks that paid for inspections of cars they ultimately did not purchase, or cases where lawsuits were filed by sellers against inspectors who they claimed "cost them a sale." Lots and lots of BS as you might expect.
Bottom line, I found Marc in LA, and was able to find another in Miami. Both did very thorough inspections with tons of photographs, and a phone conversation where they were straight-forward about the car they were inspecting.
You are responsible for the purchase decision, regardless of how you check out the vehicle. If you agree with this statement, then you know not to expect miracles from an inspection.
It seems stupid consumers confuse "inspection" with "warranty". That costs us all dearly, imo.
As others have commented, liability and stupid consumers have created this issue. Marc and others told me stories about people blaming the inspector for things they later discovered or things that went wrong with their car. Some people cancelling payment on checks that paid for inspections of cars they ultimately did not purchase, or cases where lawsuits were filed by sellers against inspectors who they claimed "cost them a sale." Lots and lots of BS as you might expect.
Bottom line, I found Marc in LA, and was able to find another in Miami. Both did very thorough inspections with tons of photographs, and a phone conversation where they were straight-forward about the car they were inspecting.
You are responsible for the purchase decision, regardless of how you check out the vehicle. If you agree with this statement, then you know not to expect miracles from an inspection.
It seems stupid consumers confuse "inspection" with "warranty". That costs us all dearly, imo.
03-02-2014, 03:32 AM
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Thanks everyone for the recommendations (and chuckles). My wife (on her own I might add - while she was on business in Long Beach) called and set up an appointment with Redline at the recommendation of the Long Beach PCA chapter. She knows how to get things done!!!
Jem will even take the car to Redline. So hopefully everything will check out and we'll have our 5th 911 headed North to Seattle with us behind the wheel in a few weeks (come on Siskyous, stay snow-free for us).
=Bob=
'73 1/2 911T
'82 911SC
'95 993 C2S
'06 997.1 C2S
'09 997.2 C2S PDK (fingers crossed)
Jem will even take the car to Redline. So hopefully everything will check out and we'll have our 5th 911 headed North to Seattle with us behind the wheel in a few weeks (come on Siskyous, stay snow-free for us).
=Bob=
'73 1/2 911T
'82 911SC
'95 993 C2S
'06 997.1 C2S
'09 997.2 C2S PDK (fingers crossed)
06-10-2014, 03:53 PM
#23
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Much like the art world many experts may no longer be willing to hang their asses on the line where a "forgery" could trigger a law suite.
Suggest reading is John Draneas' latest article in Sports Car Market.
If all the buyer wants is "it runs, it's not rusted and all systems seem to work" that's fine. Matching numbers? No way no how. That's between you and the seller.
Suggest reading is John Draneas' latest article in Sports Car Market.
If all the buyer wants is "it runs, it's not rusted and all systems seem to work" that's fine. Matching numbers? No way no how. That's between you and the seller.
