Is the Carrera 4 much better than Carrera 2 in the winter ?
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My 09 c2s is a year round driver in michigan. Obviously, this requires a second set of rims for snow tires, which is a minimum (all season is code for always wrong in my opinion). With the summer tires (michelin super sports), it's pretty dangerous in cold and wet, let alone froze precipitation. With snow tires, rear traction is never a problem, however, it does understeer in any snow above 1 inch deep. Also becomes a snowplow in 4+ inches, which doesn't work. If roads are plowed, life is good.
Would a 4 be better? No doubt. Necessary? Not for me.
Would a 4 be better? No doubt. Necessary? Not for me.
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I'm in Toronto and opted for the Carrera 4 as I'll be using it as a daily driver.
I've not had it for a winter yet but cannot wait especially with a good set of winters!
I've not had it for a winter yet but cannot wait especially with a good set of winters!
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I'm in Toronto as well. If you plan on doing most of your driving in the city, then you can get by with RWD and a good set of snows. That being said, my C4S is a blast in the snow and I'm very happy with AWD. As another poster mentioned above, the biggest issue is ground clearance. On days where there is significant accumulation (mainly on unplowed side streets), that is where you will run into real problems, regardless if you have RWD or AWD.
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Porsche cars are quite competent in the snow as long as you have a set of proper snow tires - even the 2wd ones. I sell snows to more owners of 2wd than 4wd cars and nobody reports problems getting around. Of course the AWD cars will be better, but not so much that they are the only ones to have.
Get a fresh set of snows and you'll be fine. Please call me if I can help.
Get a fresh set of snows and you'll be fine. Please call me if I can help.
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Even with AWD and snows one factor to consider is ground clearance and chunks of snow and ice. That's when you want to drive your beater car with winter tires.
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C4's are vastly superior to cs's in every possible way. The C4 drivers are also much better endowed!
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The type of tire does matter, that being said the amount of snow on the ground will actually make the difference between C2 vs C4, personally owning a SLK 55 AMG prior and driving it around in the winter I can say that for RWD more than an inch of snow and hills become tough to start and stop on, when I went to my C4S with snows I even helped pull a honda out of a ditch
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Hard to say whether the type of tire is more important than the number of driven wheels. For sure, the most important factor is that the main drive wheels are under the heaviest end of the car. Front-engine, FWD cars perform well for the same reason, but a rear-engine RWD car should perform even better because of the rearward weight shift under acceleration.
I live in Denver, and for 2 years my '86 Carrera (RWD, no ABS) was the only car I had. With 4 winter tires (Dunlop Winter Sport), it pulled like a tractor on hard pack and icy roads. I recall driving across town in a Christmas blizzard a few years ago. There were SUVs and FWD cars stuck on roads with their wheels spinning as I slowly drove right by them.
Not only did the car perform amazingly well on snow, it was an absolute blast to drive in those conditions! All you guys who store your cars for the winter don't realize what you're missing out on...I'll never forget how much fun I discovered doing slow speed drifts around corners. On a dry road, you'd have to be going fast enough to land in jail to do that, but on snow, you can do it under 20 mph. An AWD 911 would no doubt have a bit more traction and be safer, but probably not be as much fun.
I say get the C2 or C2S for maximum fun on both dry and snowy roads. Just plan on a second set of wheels with winter tires mounted.
I live in Denver, and for 2 years my '86 Carrera (RWD, no ABS) was the only car I had. With 4 winter tires (Dunlop Winter Sport), it pulled like a tractor on hard pack and icy roads. I recall driving across town in a Christmas blizzard a few years ago. There were SUVs and FWD cars stuck on roads with their wheels spinning as I slowly drove right by them.
Not only did the car perform amazingly well on snow, it was an absolute blast to drive in those conditions! All you guys who store your cars for the winter don't realize what you're missing out on...I'll never forget how much fun I discovered doing slow speed drifts around corners. On a dry road, you'd have to be going fast enough to land in jail to do that, but on snow, you can do it under 20 mph. An AWD 911 would no doubt have a bit more traction and be safer, but probably not be as much fun.
I say get the C2 or C2S for maximum fun on both dry and snowy roads. Just plan on a second set of wheels with winter tires mounted.