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Old 05-12-2013, 12:37 PM
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Over the last few days, the car has been getting harder to shift, especially into first and second when going slowly or stopped. I certainly can't do any aggressive shifting or driving. I missed a shift into 5th and heard some grinding to boot. Is this user serviceable or a shop problem? Lubrication or cable replacement? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by sy308
Over the last few days, the car has been getting harder to shift, especially into first and second when going slowly or stopped. I certainly can't do any aggressive shifting or driving. I missed a shift into 5th and heard some grinding to boot. Is this user serviceable or a shop problem? Lubrication or cable replacement? Thanks.
When was the last time the clutch (and brake) hydraulic system was flushed/bled?
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How many miles? sounds like your clutch is tired or as Macaster said
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Is this always or when cold? My 1-2 shift has always been quite more difficult particularly when cold. After about 20 min, it seems to ease up. I usually double clutch it into 1st....yes I know the syncos are supposed to take care of that, but it always feels a bit easier. Could all be in my mind.
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If this occurs when the car is warm, the clutch could be dragging. In that case I would suspect a worn release bearing.
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Originally Posted by Macster
When was the last time the clutch (and brake) hydraulic system was flushed/bled?
The car has 22K on it and unknown the last time brake/hydraulic system was flushed.
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The more information you can supply, the more we can help. How old is the car?

I've noticed that if these cars sit for a while, they don't shift too well. You've got to drive them more frequently and then all the little bits get good and lubricated and work together much better.
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Originally Posted by MJBird993
The more information you can supply, the more we can help. How old is the car?
The car is an '05 with a four year old engine. It shifted normally as far as I can tell last year and at first when I moved it out of the garage this spring but as the weeks went on it has become stiff.
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I just picked up an 06 C2S that had been sitting in a garage for almost 4 years. I was really worried about how rough 1-2 gear were but now that I have been driving it for a couple weeks its really starting to get smoother.
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Mine is hard to shift from 1st to 2nd at start up. I usually will do 1st to 3rd and within a mile the shift to 2nd is back to normal.

I had same symptom with my E39 M5.
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Originally Posted by sy308
The car has 22K on it and unknown the last time brake/hydraulic system was flushed.
I just did this... very simple. Space is limited around the clutch nipple area so get a shorty 11mm open box wrench. https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...fluid-job.html
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22k miles isn't normally time to change gear oil, but your car is 7-8 years old. If flushing the clutch fluid does not help, try changing the gear oil. If these 2 simple things do not help, then you might be looking at worn clutch parts or failing cables (unlikely at 22k). Having said that, 1st and 2nd is always harder to engage when cold.
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Originally Posted by 7500rpm
22k miles isn't normally time to change gear oil, but your car is 7-8 years old. If flushing the clutch fluid does not help, try changing the gear oil. If these 2 simple things do not help, then you might be looking at worn clutch parts or failing cables (unlikely at 22k). Having said that, 1st and 2nd is always harder to engage when cold.
+1... from a troubleshooting perspective if you wanted to approach this from a cost perspective here are you're options by cost.

DIY Write-up's available for these
- flush brakes and clutch fluid = $20-$30 for a liter off brake fluid
- flush gear oil = $150 for 3 liters of Porsche(Shell) gear oil

Dealer Service
- Clutch Replacement = $1200-2000

IMHO try the least costly items 1st before going for the clutch... especially if the brake and gear oil fuild's has not been serviced on your car in the past 7 yrs. Mileage is one factor but age will also affect a fluid's protective and lubrication properties.
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Originally Posted by USMC_DS1
+1... from a troubleshooting perspective if you wanted to approach this from a cost perspective here are you're options by cost.

DIY Write-up's available for these
- flush brakes and clutch fluid = $20-$30 for a liter off brake fluid
- flush gear oil = $150 for 3 liters of Porsche(Shell) gear oil

Dealer Service
- Clutch Replacement = $1200-2000

IMHO try the least costly items 1st before going for the clutch... especially if the brake and gear oil fuild's has not been serviced on your car in the past 7 yrs. Mileage is one factor but age will also affect a fluid's protective and lubrication properties.
Thanks. I'll go in this order. From what I have seen with the local dealer, if I take the car in there, they probably will say the clutch is bad and needs to be replaced. When I first got the car, I did not have the key memory stored properly and wondered why every time I drove the car, the last climate setting was not memorized and the AC was on all the time. The dealer tried to tell me the computer module was faulty and a new one was necessary. I complained to Porsche NA about the situation after I read the manual, got help here and "fixed" it myself.
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Originally Posted by sy308
Thanks. I'll go in this order. From what I have seen with the local dealer, if I take the car in there, they probably will say the clutch is bad and needs to be replaced. When I first got the car, I did not have the key memory stored properly and wondered why every time I drove the car, the last climate setting was not memorized and the AC was on all the time. The dealer tried to tell me the computer module was faulty and a new one was necessary. I complained to Porsche NA about the situation after I read the manual, got help here and "fixed" it myself.
This is one of those creature comfort items I've been meaning to get to... would you mind forwarding the link or instruction set re how to resolve this. Or is it as simply as RTFM. haha.


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