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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 12:17 PM
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I'm currently negotiating the purchase of a CPO 2006 C2S. I'm 1000 km from the dealer, so logistics become an issue as it relates to getting the car home (winter) and also getting a PPI. The dealer has all the service history as well as history of a couple of small insurance claims ($500 and $2700 for a front bumper paint and signal/marker light replacement). Given the car is CPO, would you still insist on a third-party PPI? It's exactly the car I'm looking for, so I hope things work out. Thanks!
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 01:13 PM
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A PPI is always a good idea, but I understand your logistical problems. The main reason for me is finding things the dealer didn't disclose: accident history, unusual wear, rock chips, smooth shift, smells etc. (the things CPO doesn't cover)

Are you buying the car sight unseen? I would at the very least see if you could call in a rennfax... you know find someone on the forum to looks at the car and give it a once over and drive it around the block. It's not as good as a PPI, but at least you get some independent eyes on it.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaws1
I'm currently negotiating the purchase of a CPO 2006 C2S. I'm 1000 km from the dealer, so logistics become an issue as it relates to getting the car home (winter) and also getting a PPI. The dealer has all the service history as well as history of a couple of small insurance claims ($500 and $2700 for a front bumper paint and signal/marker light replacement). Given the car is CPO, would you still insist on a third-party PPI? It's exactly the car I'm looking for, so I hope things work out. Thanks!

I too understand your logistics problem but let me ask you if you would rather go through the trouble to get a PPI done and learn of any issues and get them addressed before you got the car home or get the car home and them have to deal with getting the issues fixed?
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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Aye, ask someone on here to have a look for you.

Buying a car unseen could be hit or miss.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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At the very least, see if there is a mechanic in the local area. Pay him the travel time and have him take a look at it? Best of luck.......
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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PPI is always a good idea. Last year I walked away from a deal where the car was CPO but had many panels repainted to poor standard. Cost me $200 and a few phone calls.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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Thanks to everyone for their feedback.

If anyone happens to be in Vancouver, here's the car in question:
http://ucl.porsche.de/ucl/plsql/ca/c...&pnr_=1&lnr_=7
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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PPI=YES!!!
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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OK, I'm now the owner of the car, subject to inspection. I've got a few old motorhead friends in Vancouver that I'm contacting to see if they can look at it. If they aren't available, hopefully someone here can take a quick look. Otherwise, I'll call an indy shop.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 12:05 PM
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I've bought several cars from many hundred miles away (I don't what that is in km) and yes, you want to do a PPI. If you can't find anyone on any of the Rennlist boards to recommend a shop, use Google and find one. It's well worth the money. Even if they miss some things (and they may) odds are that they'll catch more than they miss.

You didn't say how many miles (kilometers) the car has on it already. The higher the miles the more important it is do have a mechanical PPI. But a 2006 is old enough that it could have issues regardless of miles, so you really do want to do it.

I hope it all works out for you! We expect pictures after you get it.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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+1 PPI. I'm in Austin and bought my car from SoCal. Had it PPI'd even though it was still under original warranty and CPO. The Indy found a leaking RMS and broken tailpipe. GL with the purchase.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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I responded to your previous post on having someone have a look at the front bumper for you. I took a few pictures for you and have asked for you to pm me your email so that I can send them to you. I had a very quick look and the car looks nice.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 01:33 PM
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Never assume because a car is CPO that the dealer took any time to actually look at the car. Some will address obvious issues like tires but may not look past that and then "CPO" the car. Now, the problem becomes whether they'll try and blame you for something they didn't find but was also unknown to you, i.e. painted panels. The CPO checklist is very sepcific and actually states reasons why a car may not be CPO'd. ANY aftermarket equipment eliminates a car from being a CPO car. Check common aftermarket upgrades such as short shifters, exhaust systems etc. I had a very bad experience with a dealer who CPO'd a car but had not actually done the inspection. I had a laundry list of things they needed to address and eventually they towed the car 80 miles back to the dealership to fix everything. Had I not discovered these issues, they may have tried to blame me for them, if they were failure related, and not uphold the CPO waranty.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 04:14 PM
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And always get a DME report with time stamp from the p-dealer. Cars at the p-dealer get test driven by many and some will over rev the engine... any over revs into range 4 will void the engine warranty. So don't buy a car with range 4 over revs. I'm checking out a local car for buddy and we found range 3 over revs just 5 operating hours ago on the engine. We know this happened while the car was at the p-dealer since the car has been there for 4 months.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 04:49 PM
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I almost bought a car across the country, I contacted the tech guy form the local PCA and asked who in the area could perform a PPI for me...I walked away form the deal based on the PPI outcome. I will NEVER buy a car again withiout a PPI!!
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