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heres a video

DTR and Tails 1050 shipped
DTR Tails and Side markers 1400.00 shipped all 90 day warranty $1400.00










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Al & Ed's Autosound in Marina del Rey is the Porsche Audio and lighting specialist of Southern California. In this car we upgraded the stock PCM to an ALPINE INE-W927HD which offers touchscreen navigation, bluetooth streaming and speakerphone, and reverse camera. For lighting we upgraded the front sidemarker lights with clear lens that glows amber, bumper led parking and fog lights with DRL mod, and rear led tails. We offer this on all model Porsche 997's.

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1050 shipped for front and rear
1400 if you want to have the side markers led as well

it will all fit no problem!

Shoot me an email saturndrcmedia@gmail.com

alexb76

Really? They look exactly identical to me! If not, how are they different?

Also, HOW does this work as DRL? I believe a new circuit is required to make the center light work as DRL, and LED as Fogs, right?

DELREYCUSTOMS

well looks can be deceiving it all in the manufacturing. these are high quality and come from Osram there are several grades of led and knowing a good manufacture is a bonus. The average consumer think all lights are the same and there not there are about 6 different sets floatin around.

The center is tied to the parking light circuit and the while fog led come on with the fog switch.

now if you want them to be auto DTR, I have a harness you can buy for 200.00 that plug and play with the H11 harness and requires running 1 wire from the fuse box. It is relay isolated so iy will not throw any error codes. It will allow the white led to be on all the time or you can just turn the switch if you want to save money

SecretAsianMan

I thought I'd branch out to other Porsche forums from 6speed I feel like we're getting some deja vu.

Building something like this requires a lot of tooling for injection molding polycarbonate. There's a ton of R&D cost, a MASSIVE tooling cost, a bunch of DOT approval costs, etc. etc. before you can even build a single unit. We're talking tens of thousands of dollars. To recoup the costs requires you to build and sell a great deal of them. What is the likelihood that multiple manufacturers are making these products in low quantity and just by chance landed on identical designs?

alexb76 if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

DelRey you guys clearly have some great know how for car audio and in car entertainment, good customer service, and lots of other things going for you. It hurts my opinion of your brand to see you embellishing your product like this. You're buying some goods from the same manufacturer as all the other vendors, if you want to add value and stand out, then do things like add value through bundling a true-DRL kit, bundling the appropriate resistors (I liked your other thread on the resistors you bundle with the tails) or offer your own warranty. LEDs are not rocket science, so even if a unit fails a year out (unlikely) repairing it should be well within your installers' abilities.

gonz911

I will add the ROTtec are also made in Taiwan - what are the chances? :/

alexb76

I did look at the shots from yours and Rottec and the housing looks identical to me, with even the same writing on the back. So, are you saying that housing is the same, but you use better LEDs (Osram) while others don't?

Also, the center light looks inconsistent, with dark spots in the middle, AND it doesn't look OEM at all... that's where I thought Rottec lacked (looked aftermarket), and I hoped another alternative would do better.

I agree with other poster, if someone provided a full package, Auto-DRL, embedded resistors, etc... then that's value. The same lights are on eBay as far as I can tell (again look identical).

Please correct me if I am wrong...

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rotec does not manufacture the lights. he's is a distrubitor
there are 6 companys to my knoledge that make these lights in twain and china

some are better than other some use name brand parts some don't

as far as i been told and all the research is the components come from osram.

The light have to be destroyed to be repaired so they can be recycled these are a complete sealed housing.

tooling to make lights is no that complex all the lights on the market to my knowledge are based off a mold that came from Germany, or so the story told. there are 3 grade of lights. several people brand them their own name IE Depo, Decante, VO-cool, spyder, Rotec ect ect

From customer responses and feed back that have had rotec in the past, these are the best quality optics and plastic density they have seen so far and are closest to OEM quality, plus we our service on the back end is world class.

feel free to email me or like i said I'm not here to bad mouth any other vendors but to my Knowledge these are different from rotec in the parts but not the style of light

SecretAsianMan

Tooling for injection molded polycarbonate is very expensive. The mold/tooling can't have come from an original factory, or guess what they'd be identical to OEM. Osram Sylvania makes LEDs, but I very much doubt they have any involvement in this specific product beyond maybe selling LEDs to the company building them.

First on 6speed you claimed to spend 2 years in R&D to get these and built them yourself (and only made ~20 sets?). Then in this post you claimed that there are 6 actual manufacturers. Then later in the same post you indicated that there are 3.



Now 3 jives with what I've seen - the depos, the spyders, and the rottecs/yours. You'll notice Spyder has a ton of varieties of the same light in slightly different materials - they're able to do this because it doesn't require retooling.

I like your work, I really do - especially that 997 G3 with the Alpine kit you showed off before. But your sales tactic is FUD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_u...inty_and_doubt) and that's misleading and disrespectful to your customers.

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every has an opinion and i love how you joined this forum after people started posting great reviews of my products from 6speed you took time as an electronic manufacture to jump over here

But i will give you credit your 2 dollar LED lights were a smash of an idea dave.

Hope everything well in the electronic world and here the thread you speak of

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ia-leds-4.html

FYI osram providing the optic is correct sir. osram makes bulbs and circuit boards they do not assemble Porsche tail lights i never said osram/sylvaina is pumping out porsche tails all of a sudden but the do source out lost and lots of optics as in bulbs as in porsceh tail lights w/ osram led not "Osram new maker of Porsche lights'
dectane and depo are similar styles from my research the dectane are around 1000.00 using osram parts and they offer the depo brand with non osram optics for 550.00 called them their b brand which are all over ebay.


I have been for 2 years trying to find a quality led products at a good price using the better osram optics and a thicker more oem plastic housing but at a good price. I waited a long time to bring these light to the forum or even get on the forums except l4p which i have been on for 5 years. i only ordered 20 sets to get feed back before i order 250 sets. it called test marketing and feed back. if i can't sell 20 sets the no way am i biting off 250 sets.

the red gt3 had rotec that after 3 months broke when we tried to remove the light for a backup camera and i replaces them with these lights. the customer was more impressed and after a few people suggested i should try forums i pulled the trigger. Some Time I regret it but when i get an email saying thanks these look great it makes it all worth the headaches.

also rotec is a distributor of lights and other parts from i believe Canada but him main business is carbon fiber which he has some really nice stuff.

now his tail lights are 850 and bumper lights are 580 + shipping cost

My are a great value in comparison and a 90 day exchange is better than most. I found similar dectane DTR bumper lights on ebay for 899.99 plus shipping and no warranty

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there is no accessory power in the front of the car but the C1 fuse in the driver fuse box has acc 12 Volt i have done 3 cars with the 997.2 white led for auto on mod. I am assembling harnesses using 2 relays pre wired plug and play to the H11 fog connector. the cost of the kit will be 200.00 and i will make install dIY video.

all you have to do is run 1 wire and mount the relays behind the dtr. Install time 35 min. ill am looking for a car in los angeles area we can test it on.

the mod will be free just asking 485 to cover the lights

SecretAsianMan

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I have to hand it to you for keeping a cool head

A little weirded out that you know my name though...

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good business people stay calm and conduct them selves professionally. I never take anything personal and I always respect peoples opinion and the opinion people around me. When good questions are raised I get to work to find the answers. When people say they have goos service and the get mad and blow up on people are the people who I choose not to do business with. Anger never solves anything and emotional decisions sometimes are not the best.

I hope one day we will be able to do some business whether it on a box a HUR and yes the Alpine 7 in nav works the best IMHO or even on some lights. Have a great day!

SecretAsianMan

Alright that's a pretty kickass response.

I was super impressed with your sub build, but I have some huge expenses coming up this year so I have to table mods for a little while. LED tails and a full audio system are at the top of my list.

That sub you built looked great, but I wanted to investigate a lighterweight fiberglass box and possibly a shallow depth 13" driver. But until I recover from engagement ring, wedding, honeymoon, buying this car, replacing kitchen appliances, and the cost of this car (all in one year) I have to keep it cheap

I'm sure we'll talk again soon. Thanks.