Porsche replacement for my Ariel Atom
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According to Porsche, the 2010 TT 6sp has the exact 0-60 time as the 2013 C4S with PDK and launch control. Rolling start accelerations would most likely see the TT pull ahead but that is just a guess based on my butt dyno.
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Here we go. It was Car and Driver November 2010
(Bottom Right hand corner of the Pic)
ONE second to hit 30, and 2.7 to 60. 10.8 quarter mile is within hitting range of the Veyron (which usually does mid 10s). Those acceleration figures are ridiculous
(Bottom Right hand corner of the Pic)
ONE second to hit 30, and 2.7 to 60. 10.8 quarter mile is within hitting range of the Veyron (which usually does mid 10s). Those acceleration figures are ridiculous
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What are the specs for the 2006 Ariel Atom ?
I know Porsche is not a 0-60mph drag car and I never really cared for straight line performance numbers BUT anything that can do it in under 3 sec is ridiculous fast
I know Porsche is not a 0-60mph drag car and I never really cared for straight line performance numbers BUT anything that can do it in under 3 sec is ridiculous fast
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That TT is an S car, not a standard TT. Much more $ to get that S performance and Porsche is always conservative on its house numbers.
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The Atoms performance depends on how willing you are to destroy your clutch.
The best I could do is a 0-60 of 3.3seconds with a pretty aggressive launch but I probably could have shaved a tenth or two if I was more aggressive.
What I like about the 911 Turbo is that with launch control you can do repeat launches without worrying about destroying the clutch.
As I said before I own a 2005 Boxster and love the driving feel.
I've never driven a 911 yet and was wondering if they have a similar driving feel to the Boxster?
The best I could do is a 0-60 of 3.3seconds with a pretty aggressive launch but I probably could have shaved a tenth or two if I was more aggressive.
What I like about the 911 Turbo is that with launch control you can do repeat launches without worrying about destroying the clutch.
As I said before I own a 2005 Boxster and love the driving feel.
I've never driven a 911 yet and was wondering if they have a similar driving feel to the Boxster?
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The 997.1 comes either manual or tip. They were made till 2009 and have the GT1 derived block, aka the Mezger engine which is a plus. From 2010 onwards the 997.2 are P&K equipped cars and have the launch control function you mention. I don't think it's available in manual cars. The 2009 .1 is the one to seek, as it has the newer PCM 3 of the newer cars.
There is no substitute to the thrust of the turbo... Trust me. Test drive one.
For tracking you will need to work on suspension. The stock setup of the turbo leaves much to be desired. It's closer to a gt car than a race car. But a little suspension work will get you closer to what it's supposed to feel. Do some searching here and on the 6 speed forum regarding suspension setup and alignment. Good luck!
There is no substitute to the thrust of the turbo... Trust me. Test drive one.
For tracking you will need to work on suspension. The stock setup of the turbo leaves much to be desired. It's closer to a gt car than a race car. But a little suspension work will get you closer to what it's supposed to feel. Do some searching here and on the 6 speed forum regarding suspension setup and alignment. Good luck!
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http://tom-wood.porschedealer.com/pr...95583/info.php
In your circumstance I would spend a little over 100k and get a 997.2 varient such as the one above. Or a Turbo S http://main-line.porschedealer.com/p...99236/info.php (which may be abetter long term investment)
In your circumstance I would spend a little over 100k and get a 997.2 varient such as the one above. Or a Turbo S http://main-line.porschedealer.com/p...99236/info.php (which may be abetter long term investment)
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The 997.1 comes either manual or tip. They were made till 2009 and have the GT1 derived block, aka the Mezger engine which is a plus. From 2010 onwards the 997.2 are P&K equipped cars and have the launch control function you mention. I don't think it's available in manual cars.
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http://tom-wood.porschedealer.com/pr...95583/info.php
In your circumstance I would spend a little over 100k and get a 997.2 varient such as the one above. Or a Turbo S http://main-line.porschedealer.com/p...99236/info.php (which may be abetter long term investment)
In your circumstance I would spend a little over 100k and get a 997.2 varient such as the one above. Or a Turbo S http://main-line.porschedealer.com/p...99236/info.php (which may be abetter long term investment)
Most say get the older one, 2007-2009 because the engine is based on the racing GT1 Mezger engine which is dry sumped, and supposedly more robust.
Not sure if I want a Turbo or a GT3, need to test drive both.
decisions, decisions.
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You mention the 997.2 which is the 2010+ model.
Most say get the older one, 2007-2009 because the engine is based on the racing GT1 Mezger engine which is dry sumped, and supposedly more robust.
Not sure if I want a Turbo or a GT3, need to test drive both.
decisions, decisions.
Most say get the older one, 2007-2009 because the engine is based on the racing GT1 Mezger engine which is dry sumped, and supposedly more robust.
Not sure if I want a Turbo or a GT3, need to test drive both.
decisions, decisions.
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Sorry folks, but I just don't get this thread. The OP has an Ariel Atom as a dedicated track car, but now wants to replace it with steet-legal supercar as a DD grocery-grabber? Are you kidding us?
Where do you plan to do all of this "incredible acceleration" with your DD? Not behind me on the highway, I hope. I test tweaks of my dedicated Porsche racecar in our extremely long private driveway, but then I stand on the brakes before I hit the main road. It only really gets to spread its wings at the track.
I don't get this thread.
Where do you plan to do all of this "incredible acceleration" with your DD? Not behind me on the highway, I hope. I test tweaks of my dedicated Porsche racecar in our extremely long private driveway, but then I stand on the brakes before I hit the main road. It only really gets to spread its wings at the track.
I don't get this thread.
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Sorry folks, but I just don't get this thread. The OP has an Ariel Atom as a dedicated track car, but now wants to replace it with steet-legal supercar as a DD grocery-grabber? Are you kidding us?
Where do you plan to do all of this "incredible acceleration" with your DD? Not behind me on the highway, I hope. I test tweaks of my dedicated Porsche racecar in our extremely long private driveway, but then I stand on the brakes before I hit the main road. It only really gets to spread its wings at the track.
I don't get this thread.
Where do you plan to do all of this "incredible acceleration" with your DD? Not behind me on the highway, I hope. I test tweaks of my dedicated Porsche racecar in our extremely long private driveway, but then I stand on the brakes before I hit the main road. It only really gets to spread its wings at the track.
I don't get this thread.
I don't know where you get your information, however, just to inform you the Ariel Atom is not a dedicated track car, as it can and is legally licensed in many cities around the world.
A dedicated track car is a car that cannot be legally driven on public roads, that's the definition in my book.
The Atom is an awesome track/street car but is pretty extreme in that you have no protection from the elements, and in my case I always used a full face helmet whenever I took it out on the road(bugs hitting your face at 80mph really hurt).
If you take a survey of owners around the world many of them do not track their Atoms at all.
An Ariel Atom is the equivalent to a 4 wheel sport bike, and I bought my Atom because I enjoy the freedom of riding a motorcycle but unfortunately there are so many ignorant texting, talking, eating, applying makeup distracted drivers that it's not worth the risk.
I'm selling the Atom because in the last year I haven't driven it much and I refuse to own a garage queen when vehicles generally depreciate every year that goes by. Not in my case as I am selling it for only $5,000 less than what I paid for it.
Now, regarding your comment, I see nothing wrong with the concept of replacing the Atom with either a Porsche GT3 or a Turbo. They are probably two of the most similar cars in terms of performance to the Atom that you can find on the market, just larger in size and more practical.
If you think of the Atom as a big go kart then you could think of the GT3 as a little bigger go kart.
Since you have probably never even driven or experienced how an Atom drives/feels, it's quite ignorant commenting on something you know nothing about.
You ask "Where do you plan to do all of this "incredible acceleration" with your DD?" Well to inform you, I live in southern California and there are literally dozens of amazing driving roads here to experience the incredible acceleration.
Any other questions?
Maybe you might suggest I replace my Atom with a Toyota Prius????