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Old 08-07-2012, 10:22 AM
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Default Anyone near Sterling McCall Toyota in Houston? Check out a 997.2 C4S for me?

Hello again. Although I don't post much (mostly because I'm still learning about and still searching for my first 911) I visit here almost everyday. I've become familiar with a lot of names here and hope someday to meet some of you.

Today marks the one year anniversary of my search for my first 911. In the past year I have found a few 911s that caught my eye (who am I kidding, they all catch my eye) but two in particular that I let get away.

One in Atlanta, GA at Jim Ellis Porsche because I didn't act fast enough (still kicking myself in the butt over that one) that was EXACTLY what I wanted. A well optioned 2012 C4S discounted from $120k down to $95 with less than 1000 miles. Corporate "Demo" I think and the warranty had already been punched for a almost a year.

The other one was in Houston, TX at Momentum Porsche. A 2011 C4S that wasn't optioned as nice as the 2012 but had less than a few hundred miles and also had the warranty punched for almost a year. The dealer and I came within $5k of an agreement and someone bought it before I made my decision.

Which brings me to this post. I found a 2011 C4S 911 on eBay that could pass for the one that sold in Houston earlier this year. I'm pretty sure it isn't the same car because this one has almost 20,000 miles on it unless the owner drove it a lot this year. I'm a little nervous about buying a 911 from a Toyota dealer and was wondering if someone from the southwest Houston area that is familiar with Sterling McCall Toyota could stop buy and have a look on my behalf if it wouldn't be a lot of trouble.

Here is the link to the car on eBay. 2011 Porsche C4S

Thanks in advance and thank you all for all of the informative advice that I have indirectly received from this forum. I have learned so much from all of you! Hopefully some day, I can be part of this wonderful community.
Old 08-07-2012, 11:14 AM
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This is a really nice car and worth looking at. It's got some really nice options - PSE, crest in seats, window wiper, ventalated seats, sport steering wheel and Sport Chrono Plus (which I believe lowers the car by 20mm).
There's been discussion theat you shouldn't buy from a non-Porsche dealer etc... But you just need to find the history of the car. Somebody probably traded it in on something new... Who knows, right? Get the data.
I'm not close to Houston so sorry, I can't help you out. Many cars are bought sight unseen. Have it checked out at a Porsche dealer.
Old 08-07-2012, 12:59 PM
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Wow a year of looking. I gave myself six months to look and I got impatient and went a little over budget on a car I couldn't pass up. Since you're in ohio have you looked at the cars at Byers in columbus? I saw a really nice GTS on their site for sale. Or are you only looking for awd cars?
Old 08-07-2012, 01:18 PM
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looks pretty need. missing are proper seats and it seems like you would need new tires soon other then that great car, arrange a price with them outside of ebay with subject to ppi that goes through with flying numbers.
Ask for maintenance history and carfax, if you have the vin you can also call a Porsche dealer and ask if they have any service history, repairs etc
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by having somebody look at a car for you is really a waste. You have to have the dealer take it to a porsche dealer, inspect it, and then youll know all about the car. No hoping
If its not worth paying to do that, you arent serious about buying the car.
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What does the carfax on it say about ownership? Did the dealer acquire it thru a trade in or did they procure it from an auction? Sometimes they'll buy eye candy for the dealership to draw on lookers = no service records. If it was a trade-in then the original owner may have left them with service records... would be very odd if he did not. You'll definitely want a PPI.

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Old 08-07-2012, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hakaida702
Wow a year of looking. I gave myself six months to look and I got impatient and went a little over budget on a car I couldn't pass up. Since you're in ohio have you looked at the cars at Byers in columbus? I saw a really nice GTS on their site for sale. Or are you only looking for awd cars?
Thanks for the reply.

I'm trying to be patient, maybe that is part of the problem. I'm looking for the near "perfect" car after letting the one I wanted get away. I'm hoping it will pay off and I'll find the right car. I have been to Byers (2 hrs. away) and check their site once in a while but haven't seen the GTS (maybe I missed it).

Doesn't have to be AWD, I just like the look of the 4S or an S. I'm trying to stay with the 997.2 model years and PDK. I would also like Sport Exhaust, Sport Chrono, PASM and a few other extras. Prefer a Porsche CPO car with lower miles if possible. I have a budget in mind but I can be a little flexible if my dream car fell in my lap.
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Originally Posted by okbarnett
by having somebody look at a car for you is really a waste. You have to have the dealer take it to a porsche dealer, inspect it, and then youll know all about the car. No hoping
If its not worth paying to do that, you arent serious about buying the car.
I understand what you are saying and I guess I was just asking if somebody here drove by there to and from work or lived nearby. They could give me their opinion of the overall condition of the car, road rash, paint chips, swirls, does it smell of smoke inside, etc. I wasn't asking for a PPI of sorts, just an opinion if it wasn't any trouble.

If this car becames a "serious" prospect, I would certainly pay to have a PPI done by a reputable third party or Porsche dealership.

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Old 08-07-2012, 05:09 PM
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I work there as a buyer and familiar with the car. In the car scene in houston i go by "4sell" on most of the local forums, i currently personally have a 996 c4s, blown c6, and a 25.5 certified cobra race car . I know the story on the car. Im only logged in here via facebook to answer this thread. If you want to call or email its fine. Momentum porsche is across the street if you want to do PPI through them.

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Old 08-07-2012, 05:48 PM
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I talked to sterling McCall once about a 911. The Toyota dealer gets trade ins from either the sister BMW dealer or another premium brand they sell- can't remember which. It was a base 2009 for 57K that I should have moved on...oh well. Get a solid PPI.
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Thanks to Danon Minner!

He walked around the car with me on the phone and gave me a detailed visual and his opinion of the car. He also knew some history of the car which helped too.

Thanks again Dan! It was really good talking to you.

I'm telling you, the people here are some of the best!
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I wouldn't be too concerned about it being sold by a Toyota dealership pending a positive PPI. That's a great looking car with a hefty list of desirable options. Go for it!

You definitely have more patience than I do.
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I can go look at it...its close to me. Email me at roadrat@gmail
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the price seems reasonable
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Only thing that really shows on CarFax is that it has had the windshield replaced and two tires mounted and balanced at 10,003. The person I talked to said they just put two new rear tires on it. Car has 19,472 on the ODO. Hmmm...

07/22/2011 10,003 Higginbotham Automobiles LLC
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Two tires mounted and balanced
Windshield replaced
State safety inspection completed
Oil and filter changed
Maintenance inspection completed


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