CBnAT

My butt tells me I currently drive the best car I have ever driven. CR can quote me and print that.

alexb76

Ok, I found the full chart, had to screen capture it from Consumer Reports Youtube video!

jhbrennan

Part of the whole article.

boolala

Now that would be talking out of your ***

pissedpuppy

what's the avatar boolala? totally compelling to me....

lopro

wow not many sports cars on that list

I would agree that anything made has flaws to be smoothed out in its first year of production. This goes further than cars, anything is like that.. look at the Ipad for example, the second version was much more refined

hpowders

Isn't that the same magazine that rated the Lexus LS the highest ever, with 99 out of 100 total points and listed its major weakness as "lack of agility"?

Consumer Reports hasn't got a clue on anything automotive.

Even their recommended coffees suck!!

alexb76

I actually agree that their Auto Reviews are not that great, SPECIALLY for car enthusiasts.

However, the reliability survey is just data gathered based on OWNER'S FEEDBACK SURVEY! So, it is the owners who reported problems with the car and NOT Consumer Reports.. they simply tallied the results and provided this list and it is definitely un-biased and accurate as anything else I've seen!

ADias

Like I said... who in his right mind considers CR's opinions?

alexb76

It's actually OWNER'S OPINIONS, NOT CR's! They just aggregated the results.

ADias

Which owners? I do not trust CR's or JDP's surveys. I observe, ask, reason and decide for myself.

hpowders

True. The reliability survey is why I subscribe to CR. I skip the auto reviews.

Also, for those who have the CR online subscription, the updated reliability data can be found there as of yesterday.

Don't even bother to look at the Audi Q5 reliability data unless you have a strong heart!!

Minok

If the Boxster is too small a sample size to count, most of the model variants in the sports car bracket are too small to count and the only account for a fraction of the cars sold then.

That said, its not a quality survey, but an initial quality survey. As in, "did anything that came with the car, break during the first week of ownership" or some such thing.

I never got surveyed.
Last time JD Power surveyed me, it was weeks after buying a new VW Golf in 1994. I'd not had the car long enough to really know much about the guts of the car (re initial quality) other than they worked out of the box. I'd not have taken possession of it if anything didn't work, so the whole idea of that super-early survey seemed stupid.

Also, it doesn't survey about the quality of the car, just did any of the stuff it came with break. So if it was fitted with a crap quality trim package... that held together, its perfect. If it had a higher quality trim and a small bit had to be serviced, its a disaster.

I don't put much value in these rankings.

alexb76

According to them 1.3 Million owner of NEW cars. As someone else pointed, this is reliability of NEW CARS and if anything breaks, doesn't work while car is pretty much brand new. Hence, cars with newer/unproven models suffer, i.e. Cayenne in this case.

alexb76

Correct, as you can see from the full chart, the niche brands like Ferrari, Aston Martin, Maeserati are missing due to small sample size.