What would be a fair purchase price? 2011 997 S
10-12-2011, 09:13 AM
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Given the fact that the car has already lost one year warranty on the lot and the car has 38 miles on the clock I made the dealer an offer on the car that included CPO ($2500, 6 yrs., 100K starting 11/30/10, day orig. warr. was started), inspection for CPO ($400), doc fees ($399) and Clear Bra on front hood and fenders for $82,500. I'll have to pay sales tax in my state of course and either pay to ship it or fly there and take delivery and drive it home (Atlanta to Ohio). That puts it in my garage somewhere between $88,000 - $89,000 depending on how I get the car to Ohio.
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Given the fact that the car has already lost one year warranty on the lot and the car has 38 miles on the clock I made the dealer an offer on the car that included CPO ($2500, 6 yrs., 100K starting 11/30/10, day orig. warr. was started), inspection for CPO ($400), doc fees ($399) and Clear Bra on front hood and fenders for $82,500. I'll have to pay sales tax in my state of course and either pay to ship it or fly there and take delivery and drive it home (Atlanta to Ohio). That puts it in my garage somewhere between $88,000 - $89,000 depending on how I get the car to Ohio.
If they reject or counter, the search continues...
10-12-2011, 09:22 AM
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Don't ship the car. One way flight to Atlanta. Maybe stop at the Tail of the Dragon. Drive home. Change oil. 1/2 way through the 'dreaded' break-in period. Life is good.
10-12-2011, 01:19 PM
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What would be a fair purchase price for this 2011 997 Carrera S? The warranty was started November 2010 because the dealer "punched" the car for "sales numbers?" but is still considered new (ODO has 38 miles on it).
White 911 Carrera S - 90,500.00
Black Standard Leather - 0.00
PDK - 4080.00
19" 911 Turbo II Wheels - 890.00
Sport Chrono Package Plus - 1480.00
Logo on Center Console - 330.00
12-Way Power Seats - 0.00
Comfort Package - 1750.00
Self Dimming Mirrors - 0.00
Heated Seats (front) - 0.00
Infotainment Package - 3010.00
Ext. Navigation Mod - PCM 3.0 - 0.00
Bose Surround Sound System - 0.00
XM Satellite Radio Receiver - 0.00
Total Options - 102.040.00
Total Charges (Destination) - 950.00
Total Order - 102.990.00
Should I insist that the dealer "throw in" an extended warranty to cover the lost year due to the new car warranty starting in November 2010?
Thanks in advance for any input...
White 911 Carrera S - 90,500.00
Black Standard Leather - 0.00
PDK - 4080.00
19" 911 Turbo II Wheels - 890.00
Sport Chrono Package Plus - 1480.00
Logo on Center Console - 330.00
12-Way Power Seats - 0.00
Comfort Package - 1750.00
Self Dimming Mirrors - 0.00
Heated Seats (front) - 0.00
Infotainment Package - 3010.00
Ext. Navigation Mod - PCM 3.0 - 0.00
Bose Surround Sound System - 0.00
XM Satellite Radio Receiver - 0.00
Total Options - 102.040.00
Total Charges (Destination) - 950.00
Total Order - 102.990.00
Should I insist that the dealer "throw in" an extended warranty to cover the lost year due to the new car warranty starting in November 2010?
Thanks in advance for any input...
Internet Sales Price Only $88,385! Original MSRP $102,990. Only 786 miles! This vehicle was all driven by Jim Ellis Porsche and/or Porsche Corporate Executives. They are new untitled vehicles. These special prices cannot be combined with any other offers. $399.99 Dealer Doc Fee included in special Internet Price. Please call or email for exact vehicle information and availability. Contact Ryan or Michael directly at 770-355-0006 or 678-447-9490 respectively.
http://www.jimellisporsche.com/new/P...92153/info.php
10-12-2011, 01:25 PM
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On their website they show the car has 786 miles on it.
Internet Sales Price Only $88,385! Original MSRP $102,990. Only 786 miles! This vehicle was all driven by Jim Ellis Porsche and/or Porsche Corporate Executives. They are new untitled vehicles. These special prices cannot be combined with any other offers. $399.99 Dealer Doc Fee included in special Internet Price. Please call or email for exact vehicle information and availability. Contact Ryan or Michael directly at 770-355-0006 or 678-447-9490 respectively.
http://www.jimellisporsche.com/new/P...92153/info.php
Internet Sales Price Only $88,385! Original MSRP $102,990. Only 786 miles! This vehicle was all driven by Jim Ellis Porsche and/or Porsche Corporate Executives. They are new untitled vehicles. These special prices cannot be combined with any other offers. $399.99 Dealer Doc Fee included in special Internet Price. Please call or email for exact vehicle information and availability. Contact Ryan or Michael directly at 770-355-0006 or 678-447-9490 respectively.
http://www.jimellisporsche.com/new/P...92153/info.php
10-12-2011, 01:34 PM
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UPDATE #2:
The dealer rejected my offer, countered with $86,500 but will not include CPO ($2900), Doc Fees ($399) or Clear Bra ($???). Basically, they are around $90,000 without taxes. I'm going to pass on this one and keep looking.
Money is still in my pocket and the car is still on their lot.
The dealer rejected my offer, countered with $86,500 but will not include CPO ($2900), Doc Fees ($399) or Clear Bra ($???). Basically, they are around $90,000 without taxes. I'm going to pass on this one and keep looking.
Money is still in my pocket and the car is still on their lot.
10-12-2011, 03:32 PM
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good call - plenty of cars out there and plenty of good deals, often found right here on this site
whereabouts is St Clairsville? I grew up in Dayton
whereabouts is St Clairsville? I grew up in Dayton
10-12-2011, 04:52 PM
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UPDATE #2:
The dealer rejected my offer, countered with $86,500 but will not include CPO ($2900), Doc Fees ($399) or Clear Bra ($???). Basically, they are around $90,000 without taxes. I'm going to pass on this one and keep looking.
Money is still in my pocket and the car is still on their lot.
The dealer rejected my offer, countered with $86,500 but will not include CPO ($2900), Doc Fees ($399) or Clear Bra ($???). Basically, they are around $90,000 without taxes. I'm going to pass on this one and keep looking.
Money is still in my pocket and the car is still on their lot.
10-12-2011, 05:15 PM
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Other side of the state on I-70, about 12 miles from the Ohio River / West Virginia border, two hours east of Columbus.
10-12-2011, 08:32 PM
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Update #3
I want to clarify something about my offer.
I have no idea what the dealer had in the car or what he is willing to sell it for. I was offering what I felt I could spend on that car. I wasn't trying to steal it or expecting the dealer to take a loss.
I actually had the dealer call me back and I thought we might meet in the middle somewhere but in the end I decided to hold tight until I find what I think I will ultimately be happy with.
The search continues...
I want to clarify something about my offer.
I have no idea what the dealer had in the car or what he is willing to sell it for. I was offering what I felt I could spend on that car. I wasn't trying to steal it or expecting the dealer to take a loss.
I actually had the dealer call me back and I thought we might meet in the middle somewhere but in the end I decided to hold tight until I find what I think I will ultimately be happy with.
The search continues...
10-12-2011, 09:09 PM
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Update #3
I want to clarify something about my offer. I have no idea what the dealer had in the car or what he is willing to sell it for. I was offering what I felt I could spend on that car. I wasn't trying to steal it or expecting the dealer to take a loss. I actually had the dealer call me back and I thought we might meet in the middle somewhere but in the end I decided to hold tight until I find what I think I will ultimately be happy with. The search continues...
I want to clarify something about my offer. I have no idea what the dealer had in the car or what he is willing to sell it for. I was offering what I felt I could spend on that car. I wasn't trying to steal it or expecting the dealer to take a loss. I actually had the dealer call me back and I thought we might meet in the middle somewhere but in the end I decided to hold tight until I find what I think I will ultimately be happy with. The search continues...
10-14-2011, 07:43 AM
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Most likely the dealer punched the card in November because there was trunk money to reduce his "cost" in the car. This was an effective tool for Porsche to show higher sales.
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10-14-2011, 03:46 PM
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UPDATE #2:
The dealer rejected my offer, countered with $86,500 but will not include CPO ($2900), Doc Fees ($399) or Clear Bra ($???). Basically, they are around $90,000 without taxes. I'm going to pass on this one and keep looking.
Money is still in my pocket and the car is still on their lot.
The dealer rejected my offer, countered with $86,500 but will not include CPO ($2900), Doc Fees ($399) or Clear Bra ($???). Basically, they are around $90,000 without taxes. I'm going to pass on this one and keep looking.
Money is still in my pocket and the car is still on their lot.
As long as you can put some miles on the car in the remaining 3 years the partially consumed warranty is no biggie in my opinion.
(I bought an 03 Turbo in 09 with just 10K miles on the car and the car came with a 2 year, 100K mile CPO warranty. Fortunately I was able to drive the car some and I put nearly another 50K miles on the car before the warranty expired on time in June of this year. In that 50K miles of driving some 'new car' problems surfaced and were taken care of. Had the original owner driven the car more than 10K miles in the 6 or so years he owned the car these problems would have surfaced under the new car warranty and been taken care of.)
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10-14-2011, 10:01 PM
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This is where you and I disagree. I was very pleased to get a one year old car (from "in service" date) that was also a CPO car. The day I bought the car, I had 5 years and 3 days and/or 97,055 miles of warranty remaining on the car. That is "peace of mind" to me.
I do, however, agree with what you are saying about driving the car. Miles, not time, will will bring most of the issues to the surface.
10-14-2011, 11:23 PM
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UPDATE #2:
The dealer rejected my offer, countered with $86,500 but will not include CPO ($2900), Doc Fees ($399) or Clear Bra ($???). Basically, they are around $90,000 without taxes. I'm going to pass on this one and keep looking.
Money is still in my pocket and the car is still on their lot.
The dealer rejected my offer, countered with $86,500 but will not include CPO ($2900), Doc Fees ($399) or Clear Bra ($???). Basically, they are around $90,000 without taxes. I'm going to pass on this one and keep looking.
Money is still in my pocket and the car is still on their lot.