pissedpuppy

your going to get a lot guys that want to believe their model year (base, or S) is beater (or has advantages) for whatever reason.

drive both, make a choice and I promise you - you will be happy.

they've been making these cars a long time, this is my 4th, and (knock wood) I have never had a major issue.

with all that said - get an S over a base if it is affordable

I have NEVER heard a 997.2 DFI engine exhaust is > than 997.1 and earlier (except for the 1st time this thread)

and personally, I avoid the first year of any new model vehicle (2005, 2009, etc., etc) - call me paranoid

IMS issues (as RMS issues with 996) may be overstated - ask for the percentage of failures, they're not high

gota911

I really like the silver (they look white) gauge faces on the S. With the silver faces you get three colors. During the day they are silver, at night they are black, and at dusk/dawn they are varying shades of gray.

I have never really cared for, but don't "hate," the black gauge faces.

TommyV44

So you have a different opinion.......emphasis on Opinion!

OldGuy

Like I have said before the 997.2 is probably the biggest jump from one model to the other since I can remember. The number of part differences is HUGE. THe 9A1 Motor alone is worth getting the 997.2. Where as in the 997.1 the GT3s and TTs have the old metzger motor that was completely different than what was in the 997.1 S, the 9A1 is good enough Porsche put it in the TT AND it is supposed to be the basis for the new motor for the racing program. The 997.2 is revolutionary compared to the normal evolutionary change for Porsche. And its more of a mid year upgrade than a whole model change but its still a HUGE change. The 9A1 motor has 40% less parts than the 997.1 motor. Its DFI for those who have it its a marvel for those who dont, its "You better have a good warranty" It also has a lower center of gravity. If you can get the S (WHich I would no matter WHAT) you get the new 3.8 which is a dream faster as a 996 TT or GT3 and maybe my 997.2 GT3, and I absolutely destroyed a Corvette going up the hwy 58 pass to Tehachapi. For the S the Z06 is more of a sparring partner than a regular Corvette.
The new motors have higher compression and better oil pumps making that Integrated dry sump term a little more easy to swallow. The suspension was upgraded to handle the extra power. IF you CAN get the S with the PDK it takes off like a Freaking ROCKET in sport PLUS mode with Sport chrono

Thats not even discussing the PDK or the Nav system is much better and much easier to use with a new touch screen. The seat coolers in mine ALONE are a revolution in the High Desert. I dont show up to meetings with WET BACK even though I AM Mexican

With the PDK its the FIRST SCREAMING street car that I have had that is TRULY a daily driver. Yet it will blow most any opponent off the road.
Sorry to get off the NON s topic for a few words there but the 997.2 is a landmark issue for Porsche.
I dont miss any GT3 or TT that I have had with this car.

Mspeedster

I have 997.1 S and love it. It's proven and ultra reliable (at least mine has been). On the '06-'08s 997.1, the IMS is pretty much a non-issue. Try finding an actual confirmed first hand account of a failure, you won't find many if any.

But having said that, if it were me, I'd get an '09 C2 over an 06/07/08 C2S if the money was close. Mainly because it's the newer car. But then again, I'd try to move up to an '09 C2S. The hp jump is worth the extra $$ - IMHO.

rodsky

He's owned both and I dont think you have. Thats his opinion based on owning and spending time with both. Maybe you just stayed at a Holiday Inn Select to become so knowledgable

I personally think that the stock exhaust 997.1 and 997.2 DFI both need a little "help". I'd personally get PSE as you have a switch. DFI with PSE sounds good IMO.

alexb76

I've DRIVEN both on street AND track... and have been to MANY Porsche events... the sound is OBJECTIVELY (can be measured) significantly MORE MUTED on 997.2, there's NO disputing that... However, if in one's opinion one *sounds* better than the other, that's subjective and we can agree to disagree.

997at

Since I haven't driven both I can't comment. I do know this though: I'm just happy to own a 997 (997.1 S cab for what its worth). There will always be better, newer and faster versions of various models, and if money was no object I'd get the latest and greatest all the time. (If this were the case I'd have a turbo cab and a GT3RS sitting in the car port right now). Know this though, whatever version you get, you are getting one hell of a car and arguably the most iconic ever.

JLHendrix

Having owned both (albeit briefly for the 997.1) must agree with Alex that stock997.1 is indisputably louder than stock 997.2. This is the one thing I miss about the about the 997.1. I also like the sound of the 997.1 better. However, i think the 997.2 is a better car expecially if you are considering the improvements to the base model which, in addition to better engine design, inlcude better brakes and suspension than the 997.1 C.

TommyV44

Thanks for the support my friend!

Tom

TommyV44

Thank you for that allowance and for the lecture, not to mention the defensiveness.........I'm forever indebted

Zeus993

There is a beautiful "howl" in the 997.1 that begins low and reaches a crescendo between 4500 and 6500 rpms that is a unique and beautiful thing. I love it. Maybe it's a symphony achieved by all those 40% extra parts in the 997.1? Perhaps in the future I'll swap out for a 997.2 but for the time being my howling 997.1 is a wonderful machine.

autopc

I asked the same question. I need auto so it was really Tip or PDK for me.

Are you considering manual or auto? Everyone will suggest the '09 PDK if you need auto. I totally agree after test driving a C2S Tip back to back with a '09 C2 PDK. I am on the fence between a '09 C2 PDK and a Spyder PDK now. Both are in the $65K range used.

pissedpuppy

some sound advice has always been to buy the latest model you can afford

despite finding answers on this board to the age old question of what's the difference between a porcupine and 2 lawyers (or, insert any occupation) in a porsche

http://www.shelterpub.com/_skidmarks/skid_p79.html

Autohound

Thanks for all the advice. So many cars to choose from in the used market right now that it can be a little confusing . . . an 09 CPO for the mid sixties or some cherry 05 s with low miles for 20 k less.