997 engine reliability ???
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Troll--because they never came back after tossing a grenade into the 997 forum. If they were sincere they would be interacting and providing more insight into their perspective.
The most probable explanation is it is someone who was done wrong by Porsche and they are now attempting to cast a shadow upon their service.
The most probable explanation is it is someone who was done wrong by Porsche and they are now attempting to cast a shadow upon their service.
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cars do brake. obviously not 1 in 8 cars, of course not. what I found quite interesting BTW - i spoke to service manager about an year ago about IMS issues and he told me that he did not see any significant variation between '05 and '06 and '07 cars on those failures. what he said - they are rare but seemed to happen on any cars despite particular build date/bearing design. for what it`s worth those were his words.
but he agrees new single row bearing design is way better. i just think - if car gets driven at least once a week then most issues will never happen. if we speak of a garage queen that sits unused for month or so - who knows what can happen there when you start her up and give her full throttle.
but he agrees new single row bearing design is way better. i just think - if car gets driven at least once a week then most issues will never happen. if we speak of a garage queen that sits unused for month or so - who knows what can happen there when you start her up and give her full throttle.
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In Jan 2010 I asked the service mgr at a large Penske Porsche dealership how many engine failures he has seen, while not giving exact numbers, he said 'we've had a few'. Then his advice was 'I wouldn't worry about it, go and enjoy driving your car'. He didn't offer any cautionary tips such as the typical stuff you see on this forum like 'don't let it sit' or 'change the oil more often' etc. FWIW.
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In Jan 2010 I asked the service mgr at a large Penske Porsche dealership how many engine failures he has seen, while not giving exact numbers, he said 'we've had a few'. Then his advice was 'I wouldn't worry about it, go and enjoy driving your car'. He didn't offer any cautionary tips such as the typical stuff you see on this forum like 'don't let it sit' or 'change the oil more often' etc. FWIW.
I mean no car maker wants to indicate its cars require any special consideration vs. competing cars so he can only be repeating the company line.
However, I tend to lean towards the thinking about what is often times repeated here: "drive the car more" or "change the oil more often".
If these actions/types of behavior are really required then the fault lies with Porsche for not building cars well-suited for this market.
Porsche is not the only car maker that could be singled out in this regard.
BMW comes to mind because I have read it 'blames' the driver/owner for engine problems that BMW claims are due to the type of usage its cars get here in the USA. More idling. Higher temps (than say Europe).
If true, then the fault really lies with BMW for not building cars/engines that can deal with the usage here. I mean, it is not like the climate, driving conditions in the USA are not well known and testing here is rather easy to do.
There should be no surprise then what BMW cars (or Porsches for that matter) will encounter here. Cars from both automakers should be able to take being used here and serviced according the automakers guidelines with no increase in engine problems if they receive this usage and treatment, and servicing.
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Macster.
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Basically, I agree.
I really do not follow the idea that the car must be driven at least a certain amount. With normal driving ( not tracking) I can't see changing the oil more than once per year for cars used only a few thousand miles per year. I see the biggest risk is having the battery drain. I do believe that a car will be older for its mileage if the car is only driven for very short trips due to more wear (with a lot of cold startups for the mileage). Regarding climate and fuel quality..... all auto companies know what the fuel quality is and what the climate is like in the US and should be designing cars to handle those issues.
I really do not follow the idea that the car must be driven at least a certain amount. With normal driving ( not tracking) I can't see changing the oil more than once per year for cars used only a few thousand miles per year. I see the biggest risk is having the battery drain. I do believe that a car will be older for its mileage if the car is only driven for very short trips due to more wear (with a lot of cold startups for the mileage). Regarding climate and fuel quality..... all auto companies know what the fuel quality is and what the climate is like in the US and should be designing cars to handle those issues.
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I find that hard to believe unless he operates at a race track or is the only one in the country that can fix these destroyed engines.
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Even though I love 928 but I am not one of them, OK ?
We really don’t need to listen to those Mickey Mouses. JD Power rated Porsche at the top 4th most dependable vehicle. The 911 has the fewest problems in the industry.
http://www.jdpower.com/news/pressrel...spx?ID=2011029
We really don’t need to listen to those Mickey Mouses. JD Power rated Porsche at the top 4th most dependable vehicle. The 911 has the fewest problems in the industry.
http://www.jdpower.com/news/pressrel...spx?ID=2011029
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We really don’t need to listen to those Mickey Mouses. JD Power rated Porsche at the top 4th most dependable vehicle. The 911 has the fewest problems in the industry.
http://www.jdpower.com/news/pressrel...spx?ID=2011029
http://www.jdpower.com/news/pressrel...spx?ID=2011029
Both in business and then in retirement (the NSX), we owned several models from Acura. Any brand that can match the reliability we observed is worth owning. A brand that can do that with Porsche's uniform emphasis on performance deserves any praise we give it.
Gary
