Cayman to Carrera Logistics
05-02-2011, 03:09 PM
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Same here in GA (we only pay tax on the "beyond trade" balance)- I have only had a few times where private sale turned out to be a benefit - most times just a hassle for break-even results. If I trade in a car worth $50K, I save $3500 tax (7%) - Atlanta City residents save $4000 (8%).
05-02-2011, 03:11 PM
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OP, you could try "Switchcars".
It's also possible to find used car dealers who will act as a broker for you. That is, you find the private car that you want to get, and then the dealer actually buys it for you, then you trade in your car to the dealer and pay them $1k extra or so for doing that. Even though the fee is outrageous, you are better off because you get to trade in your old car and get the deduction.
But realistically a normal dealer is the best way to go when you consider the value of time.
It's also possible to find used car dealers who will act as a broker for you. That is, you find the private car that you want to get, and then the dealer actually buys it for you, then you trade in your car to the dealer and pay them $1k extra or so for doing that. Even though the fee is outrageous, you are better off because you get to trade in your old car and get the deduction.
But realistically a normal dealer is the best way to go when you consider the value of time.
05-02-2011, 03:11 PM
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From the loaners I have had:
- the Cayman feels lighter, nimbler, more responsive, and less harsh of a ride
- the Carrera feels heavier, more solid, more powerful
- and for God's sake get the Bose sound, weak as it is - in comparison, that normal system is just about horrible unless you just don't plan to use it for anything beyond talk radio. It is embarrassing that Porsche would put anything like that in a car - it's worse than my 1981 Corolla was and my '85 325e was miles better with the stock BMW radio - the PAG system must be worth about $50.
I have had two Cayman loaners and a Boxster - so that's not loads of experience, but the Boxster was a blast!
Net Net - I'd say there is notable difference in the driving feel of these cars.
- the Cayman feels lighter, nimbler, more responsive, and less harsh of a ride
- the Carrera feels heavier, more solid, more powerful
- and for God's sake get the Bose sound, weak as it is - in comparison, that normal system is just about horrible unless you just don't plan to use it for anything beyond talk radio. It is embarrassing that Porsche would put anything like that in a car - it's worse than my 1981 Corolla was and my '85 325e was miles better with the stock BMW radio - the PAG system must be worth about $50.
I have had two Cayman loaners and a Boxster - so that's not loads of experience, but the Boxster was a blast!
Net Net - I'd say there is notable difference in the driving feel of these cars.
05-02-2011, 03:13 PM
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OP, you could try "Switchcars".
It's also possible to find used car dealers who will act as a broker for you. That is, you find the private car that you want to get, and then the dealer actually buys it for you, then you trade in your car to the dealer and pay them $1k extra or so for doing that. Even though the fee is outrageous, you are better off because you get to trade in your old car and get the deduction.
But realistically a normal dealer is the best way to go when you consider the value of time.
It's also possible to find used car dealers who will act as a broker for you. That is, you find the private car that you want to get, and then the dealer actually buys it for you, then you trade in your car to the dealer and pay them $1k extra or so for doing that. Even though the fee is outrageous, you are better off because you get to trade in your old car and get the deduction.
But realistically a normal dealer is the best way to go when you consider the value of time.
05-02-2011, 03:36 PM
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I haven't had a Cayman, but I did have a Boxster S with the 19" wheels and I would say that the ride was equally as harsh as the 997S.
There is a noticeable difference in driving characteristics between the two cars.
Don't get me wrong, I love my 997S. I have a young family now and it just works better...but I miss the hell out of my 987S.
I'd suggest going and driving a 997 and see how you like it. That will be the final say I would think.
There is a noticeable difference in driving characteristics between the two cars.
Don't get me wrong, I love my 997S. I have a young family now and it just works better...but I miss the hell out of my 987S.
I'd suggest going and driving a 997 and see how you like it. That will be the final say I would think.
05-02-2011, 03:39 PM
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I found my new car, bought, then listed the old one, sold it
05-02-2011, 03:42 PM
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I haven't had a Cayman, but I did have a Boxster S with the 19" wheels and I would say that the ride was equally as harsh as the 997S.
There is a noticeable difference in driving characteristics between the two cars.
Don't get me wrong, I love my 997S. I have a young family now and it just works better...but I miss the hell out of my 987S.
I'd suggest going and driving a 997 and see how you like it. That will be the final say I would think.
There is a noticeable difference in driving characteristics between the two cars.
Don't get me wrong, I love my 997S. I have a young family now and it just works better...but I miss the hell out of my 987S.
I'd suggest going and driving a 997 and see how you like it. That will be the final say I would think.
05-02-2011, 03:53 PM
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I feel as though my Boxster S had a more harsh ride than my 997S.
The 19" wheels on Boxster/Caymans are very similar in ratios to the 997s. (same front size and 265/35 vs 295/30 rear).
My 987S didn't have PASM. I think that helps.
Many of the Boxster/Caymans don't have 19's though. In fact many have 17's. This would certainly make the ride less harsh.
The 19" wheels on Boxster/Caymans are very similar in ratios to the 997s. (same front size and 265/35 vs 295/30 rear).
My 987S didn't have PASM. I think that helps.
Many of the Boxster/Caymans don't have 19's though. In fact many have 17's. This would certainly make the ride less harsh.
05-02-2011, 04:23 PM
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I feel as though my Boxster S had a more harsh ride than my 997S.
The 19" wheels on Boxster/Caymans are very similar in ratios to the 997s. (same front size and 265/35 vs 295/30 rear).
My 987S didn't have PASM. I think that helps.
Many of the Boxster/Caymans don't have 19's though. In fact many have 17's. This would certainly make the ride less harsh.
The 19" wheels on Boxster/Caymans are very similar in ratios to the 997s. (same front size and 265/35 vs 295/30 rear).
My 987S didn't have PASM. I think that helps.
Many of the Boxster/Caymans don't have 19's though. In fact many have 17's. This would certainly make the ride less harsh.
05-02-2011, 09:20 PM
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I went out of state to find the exact p-car I wanted at a price I could afford... saved over $10K+ too on a CPO'd '08 C2S compared to what I could find here. I sold my old m3 locally in TX and bought my p-car from CA. If you end up buying from another state... make sure to compare the tax rates, google the tax/transfer rules, and pay/register the car in the lower tax rate state. TX tax was lower in my case so I opt'd not to pay CA tax. I registered/paid TX the 6.25% when it got here and I had rec'd the title from the CA p-dealer. BTW, the CA p-dealer did charge $40 for doc's which is normal. I did a total cost comparison and I'm so glad I did not let the tax exchange benefits cloud things... the bottomline is price(after all things consider) and getting what you want.
05-02-2011, 11:23 PM
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This is a good thing, if anything - in some states you don't get this benefit and pay full tax either way. There's no false incentive - it's just a matter of the math - run the numbers and make the best deal, but the tax break can make trading easier.
05-03-2011, 12:09 AM
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I had an 09 Cayman S PDK and now have an 09 997.2S 6 speed. The Cayman was great car. It was more forgiving when being pushed hard than the 997. However, I still like the feel of the 911. As far as interior space goes there is more in the 997 but the hatch on the Cayman made some items easier to carry like dry cleaning.
If I were to do pick one again today it would be the 997.2S.
If I were to do pick one again today it would be the 997.2S.
05-03-2011, 02:46 PM
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I went out of state to find the exact p-car I wanted at a price I could afford... saved over $10K+ too on a CPO'd '08 C2S compared to what I could find here. I sold my old m3 locally in TX and bought my p-car from CA. If you end up buying from another state... make sure to compare the tax rates, google the tax/transfer rules, and pay/register the car in the lower tax rate state. TX tax was lower in my case so I opt'd not to pay CA tax. I registered/paid TX the 6.25% when it got here and I had rec'd the title from the CA p-dealer. BTW, the CA p-dealer did charge $40 for doc's which is normal. I did a total cost comparison and I'm so glad I did not let the tax exchange benefits cloud things... the bottomline is price(after all things consider) and getting what you want.
05-03-2011, 04:00 PM
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I had a 2010 Cayman S loaner for a day and was very impressed by its ride and handling, if not its build quality. Every time I road over some pavement imperfection, there was a loud squeaky noise coming from my left.
Don't forget about the significant blind spot over the drivers' right shoulder in the Cayman S which the 911 mercifully doesn't have.
"My" Cayman S had the PDK and I liked it, but there was a noticeable decline in power coming from my 911.
Don't forget about the significant blind spot over the drivers' right shoulder in the Cayman S which the 911 mercifully doesn't have.
"My" Cayman S had the PDK and I liked it, but there was a noticeable decline in power coming from my 911.