lvandermerwe

IMO, all ^ speculation and not worth much. I really like the looks, the size, and the performance of the 997. No 993 for me baby.

Alan Smithee

Arguably indeed. First of all, the biggest issue with the 996 was its design, inside and out, which was transformed on the 997. Second, the 997 is much more than aesthetics and electronics; the variable ratio steering, suspension tuning for 19" wheels and wider track, available PCCB, and Aisin transmission are all very different, to name a few. Third, the 997S, with 3.8 and PASM providing a very different driving experience, has far outsold the base 997 (or 996.3, as you call it).

blake

I'd argue the SAME thing was said about the 993 when it came out... Don't you guys remember the hell that was raised when Porsche changed the 60s era body in 1995? Many Porschephiles were pissed at the brand, and kept talking about the glory days of the '73 RS, the SCs and Carreras with G50s. And it took until 97/98 for the blasphemy of a water-pumper 911 to circulate...

I think this is an interesting thread, and do think the 997.1 will hold value much better than 996s and 997.2s. I am fearful that the 997.2s will suffer from yet-to-be diagnozed DFI issues... Time will tell...

-B

Fahrer

I purchased my 911 for enjoyment. I have a 2008 and feel ( hope) that the improvements to the IMS are enough to keep me out of trouble. According to Consumer Reports the 2007/2008 911s have much better than average reliability. I also noticed that since the new DFI engines have been introduced, the 911 now has average reliability, according to CR. This is, of course, info from owner surveys.

I also have a 2008 BMW 535 with DFI. What a PITA! Bad injectors, fuel pumps and pressure sensors and perhaps carbon buildup. This car has a much worse than average reliability according to CR. I am hoping that the 997.2 proves to be better than my BMW. I know that DFI is the future but I also feel it is not ready or needs to be improved. I think we are splitting hairs here though. If the new car (991) is truly bigger and more comfortable, the 997.1/2may be the last of the real 911 sports cars, replaced by luxury GT. I think the 997 is already getting big for a sports car.

911SLOW

No..

FiatCoupe

I'm not liking what I'm hearing about the 991 in particular the size and the Panamera style centre console.

I wish Porsche would do something radical like build the body out of aluminium and get the base power up to 400 bhp. Finally remove the useless rear seats but keep child seat connections for those with young families.

Edgy01

We can speculate until the cows come home. It's extremely hard to predict individual tastes over time. Also, Porsche has a tendency to be a trend setter. I can recall when Porsche came out with those disgusting looking safety bumpers in 1974. I thought that they completely dorked up the 911. In time, however, everyone came to accept them and then even love them! Porsche makes a mistake occasionally, but it's more often the case that they DON'T make a mistake. The 996 was too much, too soon, going water cooled AND radically changing the interior and exterior. They learned their lesson quickly because the 997 has become the most popular "911" since the series was first developed. It's also a lot more affordable by more people than ever before.

alexb76

Ofcourse, it's ALL speculation... however, the point I was making is that there is a good possibility that 997 will be 'the Porsche to have' later down the road, similar to how 993 is perceived today, IF, all of the 991 negative rumors turn out to be true.

slicky rick

my bet is that when the 991 comes out everyone is going to want one even the now 997 owners. then though watered down, porsche will start moving the iconic 911 to the gt class as it seems to have squeezed out the most "sports car" performance from the chassis - rear wheel drive setup...and with the competition from ferrari and lamborghini getting tighter and performance for these cars getting so much better, Porsche will need a better chassis to obtain more performance and eventually to carry the porsche sports car name for the next decade... they will come out with a mid engine sports car that will look similar to the 918 spyder.. this will be offered in hybrid and basic dfi engines with a base of 400hp all the way to 650hp. the iconic 911 will start now move in a totally different arena the GT cars.... sad to think the "911" has grown up... all because of money.....

_Nathan

Sad but unfortunately probably true. There have been too many cases in the past of sporty cars that over the years grew heavier and more luxurious until they were no longer very sporty. Just look at any BMW.

cgfen

No

cgfen

hyperbole alert!

compare the first two photo's you posted, then go was your hands..............



Craig

yemenmocha

If Porsche tries to lean towards the practicality + sporty route then they're going to lose miserably to BMW's M division, no question. The current M3 vs. the 997.1 for example is awfully close, and one is a benchmark sportscar and the other is a sporty sedan. It shouldn't be that close. So, honestly, Porsche needs to back the F away from practicality arguments.