Daily driver for 35,000 km's a year?
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I really appreciate the comments. Often it’s difficult to be impartial and unbiased while removing the emotions in making a decision. My commute is basically in a straight line on a toll highway with not much traffic, so it doesn’t make for an interesting ride. I’m leaning towards driving it 7-8 months a year for about 21,000 to 24,000 km’s. This way I'm saving 10,000 kms a year and salt.
#17
Team Owner
I've got an '03 Infiniti with 120k miles and ten years of winter driving and it isn't even rusty underneath. Parked outside every night. It's just not a big deal any more.
You absolutely can drive the car 35km a year. But I'm not sure you want to. For one thing, the cost per mile is a bit high, due to gas mileage, cost of tires, brakes, etc. It would actually be *cheaper* to buy a Porsche plus a whole other cheap commuter car than to just buy the Porsche.
#18
niche35m: Now You Tell Me
My commute is basically in a straight line on a toll highway with not much traffic, so it doesn’t make for an interesting ride.
What you need is as attached.........
What you need is as attached.........
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#19
For simplicity let's use the Edmunds standard 15k miles per year and 5 year ownership period.
The total cost to own a Honda Civic over 5 years / 15k per year is $30,348
Over the same span, if you use the Edmunds numbers for just fuel & maintenance, the cost to run the Porsche is $35,246
So, say you want to drive 22k miles a year for 5 years. You could drive all 22k miles on your Porsche. Or you could buy a Civic, drive 15k miles on the Civic and 7k on the Porsche, and sell the Civic after 5 years. The latter choice is cheaper.
Obviously you have to suffer through driving a Civic.
#20
Most folks get around 10,000 miles from the rear tires.. At 20,000/year, you will need rears maybe 2x year.. so price them out.. 18?19"? can get expensive. Also will want a second set of rims for Dedicated snows! (so, another $2-3K there?)
Other than that, enjoy! Why spend that many miles behind the wheel of something boring to drive?
Other than that, enjoy! Why spend that many miles behind the wheel of something boring to drive?
#22
Team Owner
I think its.
For simplicity let's use the Edmunds standard 15k miles per year and 5 year ownership period.
The total cost to own a Honda Civic over 5 years / 15k per year is $30,348
Over the same span, if you use the Edmunds numbers for just fuel & maintenance, the cost to run the Porsche is $35,246
So, say you want to drive 22k miles a year for 5 years. You could drive all 22k miles on your Porsche. Or you could buy a Civic, drive 15k miles on the Civic and 7k on the Porsche, and sell the Civic after 5 years. The latter choice is cheaper.
Obviously you have to suffer through driving a Civic.
For simplicity let's use the Edmunds standard 15k miles per year and 5 year ownership period.
The total cost to own a Honda Civic over 5 years / 15k per year is $30,348
Over the same span, if you use the Edmunds numbers for just fuel & maintenance, the cost to run the Porsche is $35,246
So, say you want to drive 22k miles a year for 5 years. You could drive all 22k miles on your Porsche. Or you could buy a Civic, drive 15k miles on the Civic and 7k on the Porsche, and sell the Civic after 5 years. The latter choice is cheaper.
Obviously you have to suffer through driving a Civic.
I'm just saying that the fact of the matter is that there's no good reason you can't drive a 997 that many miles per year if that's what you want to do.
#23
I daily-drove my 911 this past year, including over the winter. I put a set of Michelin Pilot Alpins on it and it was great in snow/slush/cold. I just swapped them back to summers last week since temps in DC are now consistently over 50* during the day above freezing at night. It's a great daily car - it's just a little tough getting in and out easily with the sport buckets.
#24
Regarding the porsche+civic plan- it's not just per mile cost. You have to figure the additional cost to insure and depreciation for the civic over 5 years ($20-30k, right?). I think that'd put the porsche-only plan in the lead from a financial perspective.
Though I do find that there are times when I wish I had a civic to pick up relatives at the airport or pick up things at home depot. We're a one porsche and motorcycle household so that would be a more compelling Civic argument for me personally.
Porsche purschase +Porsche 5yr,10k miles gas and maint+ porsche 5 yr ins+ Civic purchase + civic 5yr,25k miles gas maint+civic 5 yr ins - civic 5 yr value
should be greater than
Porsche purschase +Porsche 5yr,35k miles gas and maint+ porsche 5 yr ins
should be greater than
Porsche purschase +Porsche 5yr,35k miles gas and maint+ porsche 5 yr ins
Though I do find that there are times when I wish I had a civic to pick up relatives at the airport or pick up things at home depot. We're a one porsche and motorcycle household so that would be a more compelling Civic argument for me personally.
#25
Burning Brakes
Keep in mind that Porsche is really a toy car. There is no space for luggage to speak of,two passenger seating, no spare tire,few places outside metro areas for repairs.
I am on my 6th Pcar and I keep buying them because they are an addiction but in all honesty, you have to hate your money to spend it on such a useless car as DD. The best analogy I can give you it's like owning a race horse, they are nice,run fast,make a good pet, high maintenance cost and totally useless.
I am on my 6th Pcar and I keep buying them because they are an addiction but in all honesty, you have to hate your money to spend it on such a useless car as DD. The best analogy I can give you it's like owning a race horse, they are nice,run fast,make a good pet, high maintenance cost and totally useless.
#26
Whoa whoa, thems fightin' words .
I've been using it as a daily driver without issue except the Depot trips, relatives at the airport, and 3-4 days of deep snow.
It's fine for kids, it's fine for picking up groceries, fine for parking on the grass at sporting events though, ok in stop and go traffic. I never get sick of driving it.
I've been using it as a daily driver without issue except the Depot trips, relatives at the airport, and 3-4 days of deep snow.
It's fine for kids, it's fine for picking up groceries, fine for parking on the grass at sporting events though, ok in stop and go traffic. I never get sick of driving it.
#27
Nordschleife Master
what other car would you rather drive that many miles in???
#28
Depreciation and insurance are included in those numbers. I actually think it's understated a bit because Edmunds is using old gas prices and they are higher now.