pabafree95

A few questions:
1. Is this detectable by RRD? ie: can it be detected by a detector-dectector?
2. If the police point laser and it jams on them, and they get pissed off and pull you over anyway, would they automatically assume you have a jammer/defusser?
And would they be able to tell? ie: could they ID the defussers in the bumper and ticket you?

crw

No - their system will not pick up yours - it is a stealth unit.

If they really want to ticket you they will do it - radar or not.

No, they will not recongnize it or figure it out - there are very few cars out there that have these.

PIA to install, but I have been happy with mine.

If you are planning a DIY fee free to e-mail me at crw41@roadrunner.com for tips.

WaltB

Don't you hate it when someone gives bad gouge.

PF95

Some guns with throw a jam code. Like the Laser Atlanta will display a JA-3. Will a LEO know when and if you are jamming him? He may. You definitely do not want to JTG. (Jam to Gun)
Your best tactic is to quickly slow to the posted speed limit and turn it off thus allowing him to get a speed.

boolala

I have a laser jammer that cannot be turned off. I have been hit by laser several times and never been ticketed for speeding (with the K40). The idea that you need to turn it off after slowing down so that the cops can get a reading is an oft repeated urban legend.

limey940

I have the 9500ci in my new truck. Had it installed by a local shop, $150, seemed like a good deal.
On the laser question, i was advised that after you detect a laser and have taken corrective action turn the jammer of, yoiu can do this by hitting the mute button 3 times. that way the leo can actually get a read on you after you have slowed. after saying that i got hit twice on a recent croiss country trip and foirgoit to turn the blocker of and nothing happened.
i think this is a great system and worth it, i will put one in my new car.

texas911

Can a competent DIYer install this? Or do you have to have an installer?

Minok

Which increases the likelihood that the car behind you (especially if you are driving in the leftmost lane with no traffic in front of you) running up your backside and making it a very bad day for you. When you suddenly slow dramatically for no physical obstruction... you take on a big risk.

limey940

I would think so, particularly if you enjoy that type of thing.
For me i dont really enjoy electrical/routing wires etc, and given that the system is about $1500.00 it made sense to spend the $150 getting it done properly. I cant see any wires, have an led installed on the center consolee, a display in the dash and the contyroller in an ashtray, cant see a thing, evreything looks factory.

cheers

WaltB

BooLaLa:

"I have a laser jammer that cannot be turned off. I have been hit by laser several times and never been ticketed for speeding (with the K40). The idea that you need to turn it off after slowing down so that the cops can get a reading is an oft repeated urban legend."

Really??? Tell that to the guy that got a ticket for "interfering with the duties of a police officer", once it was discovered he jammed the LEO to gun. Jamming to gun is foolish and only highlights yourself for other problems. Like getting pulled over for not having a front license place once you've brought attention to yourself. No to mention, if you continue to jam, he will move his aim point and look for a weakly covered area that he can get burnthrough.
IRT the K40. It is a very weak jammer and easily defeated with almost all police laser guns with the exception of the Pro Laser 3. You could not JTG with a K40 if you wanted to so you really don't need to know how to turn off your K40 jammers.

Minok:
no problem here. I have enough situational awareness to know when someone is right behind me and would act accordingly. Is slowing quickly the same as dramatically? Point being it sometimes takes a few seconds to get a return from a laser gun. Anything more that that and the LEO will become suspicious and move his aim point from center mass to a headlight or other area of the vehicle. The idea being to neutralize the threat, slow and then allow him to get a PSL reading. If done correctly he will have no idea that you jammed him initially.

texas911:

Probably in your best interest to either do the install yourself or to at least know what a good install is. Many are done very poorly and end up not adequately covering the vehicle. The true test is to have the vehicle tested both front and rear.
I've done that with mine and was invisible both front and rear on both the 997 C4S and Cayenne TS.
I shot them with 6 different laser guns to ensure full coverage to the current available threats.

Pro Laser 2, Pro Laser 3, Laser Atlanta, UTI Ultralyte, LZ1 Stalker, Kustom Prolite,

The problem with forums is that there are many so called "experts" that are actually pretty clueless about LIDAR, the guns, tactics or how to do a proper install. For those that "think" they are invisible I would highly suggest getting their system actually tested.

wru

2006,

notice you are in dfw. i'm interested in an offline discussion of quality local installers - mind a pm chat?

boolala

All I can say is that in spite of Valentine 1 shills on this board the K40 has worked very well for me. No tickets in the 5 years I have had the unit. It may be "weak" in principle, it may have short range, blah, blah, blah but the bottom line is that it has worked. Explain to me how you can improve on getting zero tickets.

I'm waiting...............

OTOH hand do I need to post the list of people on RL who have admittedly been caught speeding with the V1 with radar alone?

Laser is less common where I commute but I have been hit with it on several occasions doing 75 in a 55. In all cases I was caught totally off guard as you know because the beam is so narrow one does not benefit from the scatter from the targeting of other vehicles. Every time I said to myself "oh, **** I'm done for". No way I could avoid a ticket. Or so I thought. Looking in my rear view mirror for those flashing light that never came.

SO I guess the K40 jammer "doesn't work." It fails miserably in every test except the one that counts................ avoiding tickets...

Res ipsa loquitur

WaltB

boolala,

I'm have not been addressing the V1. (Although I have 2) But, specifically the tactics of slowing and turning off the jammer. I'm glad the K40 is working for you, that's great. But, as far as the jamming part of that system you are on borrowed time. The fact that the LEO did not pull you over for doing 75 in a 55 zone does not mean the jammer actually jammed. The only way to know for sure that it is or is not working is to either get a LIDAR ticket or have your system tested. In the LIDAR enthusiasts realm it is widely known that the K40 is ineffective against pretty much every gun. I have personally seen this as well as actually shot and tested the K40 system. I am telling you that you live under a false sense of security with the K40 jammers. I've seen many like you that felt they were covered only to discover in actuality, they were not.
Take it for what its worth.

Macster

Both of my cars have been hit with laser more than once and I've never been pulled over for speeding and with laser as the means of speeding determination.

While my V1 alarmed on these occasions it of course doesn't jam. (Once in my VW Golf got a V1 laser alert and looked up to see an officer up ahead on an overpass. By the time I spotted him he was looking down at the gun. I of course even though I was not speeding hit the brakes to lose some speed and watched then as the officer brought the gun up and at the same time extended his arm. That's a no no, BTW, but a common mistake by an officer that has not had training or choses to ignore it. The V1 again alarmed but by this time my car's speed was down to enough under the limit that even the arm motion didn't put me over the speed limit.

Anyhow, I don't think you can attribute the lack of laser tickets as proof the jamming is doing its job.

I admit I have been pulled over even with the V1 in the car. (The last time I forgot to turn it on after leaving a hotel and was driving 10mph over on I-40 east of Amarillo TX. I got nailed in the Turbo no less. But the citation gave me the option of a deferred judgement which I asked for and was granted after I paid a $168 fine/court fee and then complied with the all the requirements of the court. Currently I am awaiting the letter from the court confirming the citation has been dealt with to the court's satisfaction.)

But I've been pulled over a few times with the V1 on, too. One time outside of Flagstaff it wasn't my speed but the speed of SUV coming up fast behind my car, an SUV that had been riding my tail for miles off and on. I'd pull over and it would zoom by then cause the driver was so lousy he'd get tied up in traffic to where I would find myself once again ahead of the SUV. The AZ state police officer only had eyes for the Boxster though not some non-descript dime a dozen SUV. The officer admitted to me that he noted my car a long way off and when the gun went off all he had eyes for was my Boxster. Fought ticket and got it reduced. Paid a small fine and got assessed one point.

Another time in CA I got pulled over and I knew the officer didn't use his radar/laser gun. He just pulled me over. I fought and won. He failed to show up for the court date.

Yet another time -- this time in TX on I-20 -- I had slowed to 5mph under the limit way before I got to the bear trap (I had both an early warning from the V1 and from the CB radio) only to have another car pass (on the left in the fast lane) my car just as the V1 alarmed. To my utter surprise (and to the big rig drivers following in their rigs -- I heard one exclaim "he's got the wrong 4-wheeler!" as the officer flipped on the lights and pulled in behind my car) the officer pulled me over and it took some arguing on my part to convince him he had the wrong car. The officer only had eyes for the Boxster. But I was successful and got a 'warning'.

Lastly, I go through quite a few speed traps, locally (city streets and freeways in my area) and of course out on the open highway both in CA and other states.

It irritates me a bit to slow down only to have almost every other car then zoom by mine all that do obviously going over the limit. Of this I'm sure cause I know the error of both my Boxster and Turbo speedos to the point I trust them enough to pass slower moving police/patrol cars when they are going under the limit when it is of course safe to do so without any problems. These other cars zoom by mine and go through the radar trap without being pulled over.

I would be willing to bet were I in either car had I not slowed down my car would have been the one pulled over.

Sincerely,

Macster.