Scott 1996 993c2

Thanks Steve.

I hope everyone enjoys the read. I didn't mean to start a flame war ... was just dared to post this over here in the 997 forum ... sorta just for fun.

The 997 is a fine car ... and you guys are class acts.

Scott

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I am new to Porsches but after owning Jeeps you guys are just the same. Very much into keeping the cars to there original roots and alot of people tend not to like change. Having only riden in a Boxster, Cayman, and my 977 I cant really comment on the subject. But I like these post because they always have alot of info. I have always wanted to ride in some of the old Porsches. Maybe some day.

Betternotbigger

The salient point for me too. I am deeply impressed at the control of weight, particularly when you consider the size of modern wheels. I am praying that the 991 drops another 50 odd pounds off as it's rumoured to do.

I went for a drive on familiar backroads this week with my wife on board, rather than alone as I am more accustomed to. The car felt significantly less responsive (no jokes please fellas my wife is quite petite). Even a small amount of weight makes a big difference in my experience.

Well done to Porsche and please keep working those pounds off.

Mark Harris

That is one of the little things that I miss the most from my 993.

I agree with the poster who suggested it's a generation thing. I hope to get back into a 993 for a weekender someday.

gravedgr

Once I caught all the Brit/British references the bias became immediately suspect. With all due respect to any British members, their society is well known for clinging to traditions more than, say, Americans. I doubt a similar comparison report from an average local writer (although there are tradionalists everywhere).

I'm not claiming either is wrong, bad, or anything with negative connotations - just perhaps not indicative of the majority.

kdurg

'87 and earlier ? No G50, no hydraulic clutch. To each his own but that's one tough whip to crack. No thanks.

No way is the 993 a transition model. Look to the 964 in this regard. More significant changes in the platform occurred here than any 911 predecessor.

Having spent over 100,000 miles seat time in the 993, this car is clearly the Crown Jewel of its timeline but it's not a 997. In the end, for me, it's about appreciating the evolution. They're both great cars and you can't lose with either one.

docfink

Sounds like you know what you're talking about, Keith. The grass is always greener...

ADias

I knew feathers would be ruffled. I did not say the 993 was not a great car - it is. But I maintain it is a transitional model. The transition sequence is 964-993-996. I do not have to detail the transition evolution - Porschephiles know what I am talking about.

kdurg

^^^ fully aware of the TYPE lineage, but thanks. Each new model embodies the best of the previous and the 993 is no exception but as far as transitioning into the next MY ? The 964 represented the most dynamic transition from its previous 911 ancestry----not the 993.

stevepow

Not sure feathers are ruffled, just matters of opinion. What would be a non-transitional model? One at the end of series - like no more 944s?

All 911s seem to transition for me - 997.2 will be a transition to the 991 having laid the foundation for DFI and PDK. The 997.1 was a transition back to a more traditional styling.

It all seems like semantics, but it is easy to see how the demarcation from air-cooled to water-cooled, on these cars, is generally considered to be significant change versus a smooth transition.

The 993 refined a good bit of what appeared in the 964, like Tip and AWD, and used the same engine. Although many things were new about it. That process seems to continue more or less; new bits, refined bits, carried over bits.

964-993. I get that, but adding 996 to the end of that sequences seems really odd. Such a disconnect there with the new body styling, funky interior, water cooled engine, and nothing carried over from the previous 993 car. Most would call that a clean slate rather than transition.

But so what - like I say, just semantics. Maybe that's the issue: what we call a transition. I see more of families of more similar technology and design: 964-993, 996-997.1, 997.2-??? and even that all depends on how big a deal one thinks DFI and PDK are or whether it is not 996-??? and we're still in that one.

Anyway, that's just me as a noob trying to think it through - I definitely don't have the hands on history of many of the Porsche-philes here.