Edgy01

Perhaps in time ceramic brakes will come down. I would expect the replacement rotors to be less if and when I need them in many years.

blk on blk

i always say it is something that if you never had you would never miss, but once you have had them you are highly unlikely to ever want another car without them. I have had a car without them, and a car with them. I cannot see myself getting another car without them. i am not a track guy, but it is my daily driver. They have virtually no wear on them.

LlBr

Related to PCCB and maintenance which is OP's interest:

I never priced this out but bear with me:

When you need major brake $ervice with steel rotors? Just shop around and buy four new rotors and the pads and DIY. No need to machine the rotors mess or with hub bearings etc.. Result is perfect new brakes.

Simple enough DIY. Do the number$ work?

Nugget

A full set of four iron rotors and pads for a 997.1 C2S costs $947, all in (from Suncoast). So you could completely replace the iron brakes nine times for the cost of the PCCB option.

Macster

I'd get them. Lighter weight, less rotational mass, the car is more responsive under all conditions: accelerating, stopping, and turning. Suspension can react better to road conditions. Just what you want from a sports car.

Plus longer component life and less brake dust: Bonus!

As long as you have the car serviced by a shop that takes proper precautions to avoid when removing a wheel and having the wheel drop on the disc and knocking a chip out of it you should have no problems.

At the Porsche dealer I watch the techs and they loosen the lug bolts then remove two and thread in special rods into the bolt holes. Then the other lug bolts are removed and the wheel knocked loose from the hub and the wheel the slid out with the rods keeping the wheel from dropping.

Slick.

Some (dare I say most if not all?) indy tire/wheel shops, gas stations, etc, not so slick.

Oh, you might try to get a back issue of Total 911, three issues actually, in which the PCCBs were covered in depth. Good reading and I think almost a must have for anyone who's thinking of PCCBs or has them.

Sincerely,

Macster.

911SLOW

+1

Edgy01

Your math is flawed. You have left out the labor each time. You need to factor in the LABOR times nine as well. For the PCCBs--you put the labor in once.

While others are doing the brake maintenance thing time and time again--

05 Pads
10 Flush
15 Rotors
20 Labor
30 Goto 05

I have only had to flush my system. (10)

Nugget

Your reading comprehension is flawed. I answered the question as asked.

Mike in CA

I recommend a pair of the guide rods even if you don't have PCCB's. They make it a lot easier to mount the wheels, especially the heavy rears, without dinging the calipers, etc. If I remember correctly, they're less than $10 each.

jakes dad

Those rods will support the wheel weight? Never gave a thought to dinging the calipers?? I"m ordering those damn things tonight.......

Dave's911

They do. I just purchased a pair and pulled my wheels off last weekend for a thorough cleaning. They made the job very easy.
Wish they worked on the back wheels too. I have a 4S with spacers, and as such have studs and wheel nuts versus wheel bolts, if that makes sense.

Mike in CA

Just one will support the weight (they're a solid aluminum piece) and in fact that's all the manual calls for if you have don't have PCCB's. But 2 make the job even easier.

LlBr

Saw somewhere the specs for the threads in our hubs but can't find them.

Anyway, bring a wheel lug bolt to local hardware store and buy a bolt with same threads.

Cut head off bolt, round it off a little bit.

Get six! They're cheap.

LlBr

Thanks! Interesting.

$1K + new parts + no machining + no service labor + no drop off and loaner + DIY fun = NEW BRAKES.

stevepow

They work great with the PAG 5mm spacers - and yes, two work even better - makes a tire take off a cinch.