I'm a PDK paddle shift convert
06-12-2010, 11:43 AM
#16
Race Director
Mike in CA...wait till you get the car to the track....the paddle shift wheel will really shine.
For those of you thinking you will have issues in a "tight 180 degree turn" you need to get your braking and shifting done before the turn. You do not down shift in the middle of that type of turn. Please go invest in either some DE's or PSDS.
Mike, your coco interior has inspired me to have Coco Krispies for breakfast! ;-)
For those of you thinking you will have issues in a "tight 180 degree turn" you need to get your braking and shifting done before the turn. You do not down shift in the middle of that type of turn. Please go invest in either some DE's or PSDS.
Mike, your coco interior has inspired me to have Coco Krispies for breakfast! ;-)
06-12-2010, 12:00 PM
#17
Gotta have the paddles! Nice. 
You fixed the problem that never should have been created.
Makes complete sense to us western left-to-right readers that the + on the right and the - is on the left.
The toggles are backwards aren't they?
Then the "stick." That's also still messed up isn't it? Downshift by pulling back, upshift by pushing forward.
Makes no sense the way Porsche set the stick up. Because when rolling to a stop sign, as kids with a manual, pushing forward meant downshifting. It's ingrained in our brains that forward is down because rolling to a stop there's not much happening so it's easier and natural to learn to associate downshifting with pushing the shift lever forward.
I'm sure
there's some racing logic behind why Porsche decided to do things backwards. Talk about total non-intuitive inconvenience for about 95% of their customers! What's the point of THAT? Same logic as having a lap timer on the dash?
You fixed the problem that never should have been created.Makes complete sense to us western left-to-right readers that the + on the right and the - is on the left.
The toggles are backwards aren't they?
Then the "stick." That's also still messed up isn't it? Downshift by pulling back, upshift by pushing forward.
Makes no sense the way Porsche set the stick up. Because when rolling to a stop sign, as kids with a manual, pushing forward meant downshifting. It's ingrained in our brains that forward is down because rolling to a stop there's not much happening so it's easier and natural to learn to associate downshifting with pushing the shift lever forward.
I'm sure
there's some racing logic behind why Porsche decided to do things backwards. Talk about total non-intuitive inconvenience for about 95% of their customers! What's the point of THAT? Same logic as having a lap timer on the dash?
06-12-2010, 02:01 PM
#18
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Thread Starter
Yes, they are are attached to and rotate with the wheel. I've never driven a car where the paddles are fixed and don't rotate with the steering wheel (I know some are like that), but it seems that would be awkward.
06-12-2010, 02:04 PM
#19
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For those of you thinking you will have issues in a "tight 180 degree turn" you need to get your braking and shifting done before the turn. You do not down shift in the middle of that type of turn. Please go invest in either some DE's or PSDS.
Mike, your coco interior has inspired me to have Coco Krispies for breakfast! ;-)
Mike, your coco interior has inspired me to have Coco Krispies for breakfast! ;-)
06-12-2010, 02:30 PM
#20
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Choice is good so everyone is happy. Those who were exposed to paddles prefer those but that does not mean redundant buttons are bad. Just different. I honestly prefer them. Life is good.
Mike: Being able to downshift in a turn is a big plus PDK offers. You could not do it before. You can now. Advantage PDK.
Mike: Being able to downshift in a turn is a big plus PDK offers. You could not do it before. You can now. Advantage PDK.
06-12-2010, 10:20 PM
#21
Mike - Thanks for the write-up. I have been batting this idea around for a while, but considering I don't track my 911 and the buttons are fine, I think the paddle wheel is overkill. It looks great in your car... congrats!
06-13-2010, 04:59 PM
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Just curious why you don't use the "sport plus" setting on the track....I was having similar problems with the paddle shifters, but once I went to sport plus, there's no going back! Only have used in 3 events at Mid Ohio & VIR, but love the PDK!
Regards, Ray
Regards, Ray
06-13-2010, 05:59 PM
#23
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perfect match for an "S" with the chromey trim, i wish they had one in volcano grey to match non S better, also wish they did pdk trim in volcano grey!
06-13-2010, 06:31 PM
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Point is, even in sport plus it is still possible to manually override with the buttons. Because of their placement, that's what was happening by accident; in particular unintended upshifts while working the wheel in tight turns, which was very unwelcome (and slow)! With the paddles, it should be much harder to trigger an unwanted shift.
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06-14-2010, 10:44 AM
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Ray, I do often use "sport plus" on track and have found it to be amazingly good at anticipating and selecting the correct gear. Even Walter Rorhl finds he can't beat the sport plus program shifting manually, so what chance do I have. Point is, even in sport plus it is still possible to manually override with the buttons. Because of their placement, that's what was happening by accident; in particular unintended upshifts while working the wheel in tight turns, which was very unwelcome (and slow)! With the paddles, it should be much harder to trigger an unwanted shift.
Point is, even in sport plus it is still possible to manually override with the buttons. Because of their placement, that's what was happening by accident; in particular unintended upshifts while working the wheel in tight turns, which was very unwelcome (and slow)! With the paddles, it should be much harder to trigger an unwanted shift.Regards, Ray
06-14-2010, 02:32 PM
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I do use Sport Plus at the track.
06-15-2010, 02:28 AM
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I've used sport plus both with the buttons and now with my new paddle wheel on the track. I had the same issue noted above with the unintended upshift with the buttons but never with the paddles. If I have the car in manual and rotate the wheel 180 in a tight corner it does take some thought to reach the paddles.
I just got back from a trip to the Dragon and the PDK in sport/manual with the paddles was an absolute ball to drive.
I just got back from a trip to the Dragon and the PDK in sport/manual with the paddles was an absolute ball to drive.
