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Old 12-15-2009, 09:24 PM
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I am very happy I got my '10 to order.
Old 12-15-2009, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ADias
I am very happy I got my '10 to order.
ADIAS, what type of car did you order, and when is it suppose to come in?

Jay
Old 12-15-2009, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Maybe Porsche is back to preserving resale value like they used to? Under Weideking it was build as many as you can. Compare the resale of a 2005 carrera witha 97 993 for example.
I have one of those ....
Old 12-16-2009, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ23
ADIAS, what type of car did you order, and when is it suppose to come in?

Jay
I ordered a Carrera S which was delivered late October. I posted a thread with photos long ago.
Old 12-16-2009, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mander
Does the relatively low value of the dollar fit into determining world wide distribution? Are they sufficiently hedged?
Having traded currency options for 10 years at a large institution I always like to discuss the FX exposure with the PCNA guys. The FX risk is on PCNA not the PAG so production matrix has nothing to do with currency exposure.
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Originally Posted by FI Flyer
Just to be clear about the allocation of CS4/CS4S cars to the USA, are any being sent to the USA or just very few?

There are cars being sent to the US in proportion to the number being built.
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Maybe Porsche is back to preserving resale value like they used to? Under Weideking it was build as many as you can. Compare the resale of a 2005 carrera witha 97 993 for example.
I believe thats part of the answer. They clearly made a poor decision on 2009 production and for the first time in history were forced to offer cash back on a 911 and they didnt like that.

Originally Posted by MyEmily
Guess VW want Porsche to be limited production instead of mass production. For sure it will drive up value.
The way I understand it from PAG is that the production matrix was decided before the VW issue came to light. Porsche is introducing an all new Cayenne this coming summer. That along with the Panamera production is where they are concentrating now. I suspect they want the 911 to remain the pinnacle of the company and not have to go through the kind of price slashing its seen this year.
Old 12-16-2009, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
I have one of those ....
LOL.. I had one of each and can personally attest to Bob's speculative analogy!!


Old 12-16-2009, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Trader220
[...] They clearly made a poor decision on 2009 production and for the first time in history were forced to offer cash back on a 911 and they didnt like that.

[...] Porsche is introducing an all new Cayenne this coming summer. That along with the Panamera production is where they are concentrating now. I suspect they want the 911 to remain the pinnacle of the company and not have to go through the kind of price slashing its seen this year.
I accept that Porsche wants to encourage the aura of exclusivity around the 911 and its intention to focus on the larger models. And I can't blame anyone for trying to prevent an inventory overhang. But, with all that, I still don't understand why Porsche would reject orders for bespoke cars to be built for customers as opposed to cars being built on spec for dealer inventory.

Of course, there must be cars on dealers' floors and lots and certainly many potential customers will be satisfied by those immediately available cars. But there are also some customers -- including me -- who are unwilling to compromise sufficiently to buy one of those cars. For us, Porsche has always been willing build the exact cars we want -- and make a fortune on the options.

Put another way, if someone like me is willing to pay a premium (and wait) for a bespoke car that is not in stock, why not take the order?
Old 12-16-2009, 03:41 PM
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I agree with the frustrations but it is all about a business model that needs to drive profitablity vertically.

Need to move inventories and there is still many units on the ground (2009 and 2010).

It makes the journey of finding the right car more challenging but the end result that much more satisfying.
Old 12-16-2009, 10:10 PM
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porsche sells their cars for less to the US market than anywhere else - they should have shifted market allocations away from you long ago and brought you guys closer to world values.

having said that, your market is more than big enough relative to any other country to justifyably demand a better price than any other market.

wait until China is bigger than PCNA and the cars are cheaper there!



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