machina

Just heard from a dealer that they are no longer allowed to acces the overun data on the DME for legal reasons.

They said the updated software for the PIWIS does not allow for it anymore.

Could this be true? Anyone had their DME read out recentley?

ADias

That seems odd. Does that mean that they will not deny warranty service in cars with severe over-revs? After all they cannot read them...

Edgy01

I guess we need some clarification. Are you saying that they (the Porsche side of the equation) are not permitted to view the numbers? Or, are they (PCNA) not permitted to share this with the owner or perspective owners?

machina

To be clear, I was told this by a salesman when I asked about doing a DME readout on a used car. He did not seem to be totally knowledgable but did ask his service manager.

He added that only PCNA could view that data now when the memory dump from the DME is uploaded to them.

GSIRM3

I had it read on my 08 before I bought it mid-May of this year. The car was new, but had been on the dealer lot for about 10 months and had about 80 miles on it, so I asked for a read of the rev counter and got it.

djcxxx

What would seem most likely is that PCNA wants to control the flow of this information so as not to influence used car sales. Porsche will never forego using this data when needed for repairs a/o warranty claims issues.

machina

So now we will have to buy the Durametric reader or go to an independent shop that has the PIWIS if we need to get a overun readout.

I know that FVD has a PIWIS down here in south florida.

997, esq

I don't know if that's the plan. If they use it as a basis to determine misuse, it's hardly fair to hide such information from a potential buyer. I guess they could represent that there is nothing in the DME that indicates misuse that would impact a warranty claim or the reliability of the car. Haven't thought through the legal implications, but as a customer relations matter it stinks, bc it suggests they are trying to hide information.

racer

I am not sure I would believe the salesman's knowledge, even if he did "ask his service manager".

While its possible PCNA wants to keep the dealers "safe" from liability, it does seem like a step back in this age of "free" information exchanges.

996toomey

This doesn't sound correct to me and wasn't my experience last month when I bought a car and had a PPI done.

Bob Rouleau

My dealer did a DME scan last week when I traded in my car for a '10 RS. Showed me the results. Standard for an extended warranty.

Minok

That seems suspect. I'd think PCNA and dealers would be better covered for liability reasons, by revealing all of the information thats available on the car vs concealing some. If the car computer collects data, and they choose not to reveal it to a potential buyer.. they are creating a possible liability on the grounds of that data. After all, in court, I would ask.. if the data is not important to the mechanical and reliability of the car, then why does the cars computer collect the data?

No HTwo O

I just had one of my car's DME read last week (10/8/09) while in for a yearly oil change and brake fluid flush before winter hibernation.

Edgy01

Perhaps what you encountered is unique to either your dealership or your salesman's knowledge base. I would never anticipate an issue with that with my service personnel. They have been more than forthcoming with such data for me, whenever I request it.

sharkster

I seriously doubt that.