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Old 05-01-2009, 10:47 PM
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Do C2/C4 and C2S/C4S have the same rear end width in 997s??
I was looking at the official website and they all seemed to be 71.18 in!
On 993s and 996s the S had that wider rear end......
I've always been a "narrow body" type of guy, and always tried to go for C2/C4, so the day I'll venture into 997s I could go with the S and get the extra kick??
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C2/C2S 1808 mm
C4/C4S/Turbo 1852 mm
Differece 44 mm or 1 3/4 inches
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The Porsche web site is wrong. Bijan ^ is correct.
Old 05-02-2009, 01:25 PM
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I have a narrow and a wide rear end car. I like the look of the wider hips, plus an extra 30 hp is noticeable.
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Thanks guys, That settles it!
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For your extra 44mm a side you will be adding quite a bit of weight to the car (front differential) which you will carry with you every day. It also eats up your already limited trunk space. There is no practical need for 4WD on this generation of 911 with the sophisticated PSM system staying on top of things. The car handles differently with the added weight. You have also added to the complexity (and therefore maintenance) burden.
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Originally Posted by Edgy01
For your extra 44mm a side you will be adding quite a bit of weight to the car (front differential) which you will carry with you every day. It also eats up your already limited trunk space. There is no practical need for 4WD on this generation of 911 with the sophisticated PSM system staying on top of things. The car handles differently with the added weight. You have also added to the complexity (and therefore maintenance) burden.
+1. This is how I've always looked at the 4.
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Is there a reason for the extra width of the 4 or is it just marketing? With previous generations the S was the widebody, why didn't they do that this time?

Also, is a few extra pounds in the front of a 911 really a bad thing?
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Originally Posted by Moderato
Is there a reason for the extra width of the 4 or is it just marketing? With previous generations the S was the widebody, why didn't they do that this time?

Also, is a few extra pounds in the front of a 911 really a bad thing?
Some would tell you that 100 lbs extra is too much.
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Porsche got to be where it is by careful marketing. The extra width is marketing at work. Most of the Carrera 4 owners will tell you that what put them over the top for that version was the ***-thetics. 44mm per side just doesn't provide that much change to the body to run wider wheels or tires. In fact, the GT3 is narrow body and runs 12 x 19 in rims in back. I run OEM 11.5 x 19 in rims in the back of my narrow body. The 997 TT runs 11 x 19 in rims in back. Many things can be done with spacer rings to push the track out a bit more but the subtle differences are so minor that the bigger handling deltas are felt from the added weight. Extra weight up front can give you a bit of a pendulum effect, because I think the Carrera S is set up extremely well as it is out the door. I have never sensed any lightness up front on the Carrera S, even at significant speed (above 175).

Again, this is strictly one person's opinion. This is what makes the Porsche line-up so special,--you can pick and choose any shape, with any options you could want, quite easily.
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Originally Posted by Edgy01
Porsche got to be where it is by careful marketing. The extra width is marketing at work. Most of the Carrera 4 owners will tell you that what put them over the top for that version was the ***-thetics. 44mm per side just doesn't provide that much change to the body to run wider wheels or tires. In fact, the GT3 is narrow body and runs 12 x 19 in rims in back. I run OEM 11.5 x 19 in rims in the back of my narrow body. The 997 TT runs 11 x 19 in rims in back. Many things can be done with spacer rings to push the track out a bit more but the subtle differences are so minor that the bigger handling deltas are felt from the added weight. Extra weight up front can give you a bit of a pendulum effect, because I think the Carrera S is set up extremely well as it is out the door. I have never sensed any lightness up front on the Carrera S, even at significant speed (above 175).

Again, this is strictly one person's opinion. This is what makes the Porsche line-up so special,--you can pick and choose any shape, with any options you could want, quite easily.
Good points, thanks for the input.
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RWD rocks fyi!
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The 4S body reminds me of Halle Berry's thighs.



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