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Racer
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Latest Consumer Reports
Rates the 911 Carrera S (Manual) as #4 in overall test scores:
1. Lexus LS 460L
2. Infinity M35 X (AWD)
3. BMW 135i (Manual)
A lot of very high ratings for the 911 in various other sub categories they list.
Rating for reliability was average.
Interestingly on USED CARS TO AVOID:
- 911 (2004 & 2007)
- Cayenne (204-2006, 2008)
Any guesses, why does the 911 2007 get dinged and not 2005, 2006, 2008?
1. Lexus LS 460L
2. Infinity M35 X (AWD)
3. BMW 135i (Manual)
A lot of very high ratings for the 911 in various other sub categories they list.
Rating for reliability was average.
Interestingly on USED CARS TO AVOID:
- 911 (2004 & 2007)
- Cayenne (204-2006, 2008)
Any guesses, why does the 911 2007 get dinged and not 2005, 2006, 2008?
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Except the 997 does have some reliability issues. Like bad muffler brackets, failed water pumps, faulty front suspension components etc
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First of all....maybe its because its not a scientific study. Second, maybe its because by chance the 07 folks problably were a little more vocal and pissed off and more of them responded than the other years...just by chance. Remember one of the question is why the 07 as compared to the other 997 years.
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I trust CR when it comes to buying a fridge or toaster, not a car. CR ALWAYS loves the most boring (yet UTTERLY reliable) cars. I'd trust Popular Mechanics more if I needed an outside source for a car appraisal.
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Racer
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That's why I found it refreshing to see how much they loved the 911 on their Best & Worst of 2009 Cars issue. Even with "average" reliability the 911 scored VERY high in many categories since they weigh the driving/performance experience etc. It's a CR recommended buy.
I'm surprised at some of the heated responses to my initial post.
I don't think anyone would argue the "average" reliability for the 997...my main question is why they singled out the 2007 as cars to avoid. Based on some other cars they've listed to avoid, they seem pretty on top of their recommendations. e.g. they said to avoid 2001 Volvo XC70, but recommend 2002 onwards for used cars. Having owned a 2002 with little problems and heard about problems with the 2001 (same model/not redesigned) it seems they're suggestions are sound.
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CR is great for ratings on mass-market cars. If you're deciding between a Ford, Toyota and Honda, their ratings make sense.
As for the 2007 911 getting dinged -- it probably has to do with their data collection methods. They poll their subscribers to come up with repair frequency data. The 'n' of Porsche owners and respondents isn't that great; OTOH, there are a lot of Honda owners. So just a few problems in one given model year can skew the statistics, just b/c of the small denominator.
As for the 2007 911 getting dinged -- it probably has to do with their data collection methods. They poll their subscribers to come up with repair frequency data. The 'n' of Porsche owners and respondents isn't that great; OTOH, there are a lot of Honda owners. So just a few problems in one given model year can skew the statistics, just b/c of the small denominator.
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You should pay attention to CR ratings if you are concerned about things like how hard it is to attach child seats and how many wheelchairs fit in the trunk. If you care more about things like how much fun a car is to drive, look elsewhere.
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CR is the only magazine that doesn't accept any advertising $$$, CR owns its own test track and employs decent test drivers and CR also buys all of the cars it reviews (anonymously from dealers).
While we may not always like the results, there is no agenda at CR and their results are what they are.
While we may not always like the results, there is no agenda at CR and their results are what they are.
Last edited by swajames; Mar 21, 2009 at 10:18 PM.
