new 997.1 S or new 997.2 base? I have the choice . . .
 

[Please understand, I know this is a gold-plated problem, and people are suffering out there. Nevertheless. . .]

I have a base '09 997.2 ON ORDER, but it looks like it will never get built. I want to drive soon; the test-drives are just making me more of an addict! I dream of driving the car. I have great cabrio weather now.

I finally located an '08 at an out of state dealer with almost the identical specs as my ordered car, and could probably get it at a substantial savings. (But let's leave that $ out of the discussion; it's about having a car now instead of in July. Or August. Or October.)

I trust the judgment of (most of) you guys on this forum. Does anyone counsel that the 08 S would be *as satisfying overall* as an 09 base model with the DFI etc? Or is the 997.2 so great an improvement that I should just wait for it?

Related issue is "build date": does anyone else have a late April / early May build date that has changed again this week?
-- Impatient in Cali

if you are comparing a PDK car vs tiptronic, you probably should go with the 09..

tough call otherwise. I am sure the 08 will drop in resale faster but you may save alot up front.

Personally, I don't care for the new tailights but certainly not a deal breaker. I have not driven one of the 997.2s but when I bought my 997.1 S, getting the S was a no brainer. Liked the quad pipes. bigger brakes and the power differential. The performance of the base 997.2 should be quite comparable to the 997.1s on the 997.2. Good luck.....

Oh boy. Lots of factors to consider. If you are going with a manual, (no PDK), I suspect that a 2008 "S" would be equally satisfying as compared to a 2009 non "S". Yet, the 2009 non S is really equal to a 2008 S on a performance basis.

You say to ignore the financial considerations. But there is a huge financial consideration that must be taken into account. The 2008 is already one year old and the pricing should reflect a significant depreciated value. I would say a minimum of 20% off MSRP, if not more. Also, if you get a 10% discount off a new 2009 non S, the cost of the 2009 might be (will be) lower than a heavily discounted 2008 S.

There are many 2009s sitting at dealerships. You can find a 2009 close to what you want. Just need to be a bit flexible with a few options and geography.

Should have said, both are 6-speed. Good advice.

I would hold out for the new car. Main reason: redesigned engine with no (trouble prone) Intermediate shaft.

jmarch: I'm with you on the KTM! The 911 is a replacement for street bike that I promised myself I would not get if it got too scary out there. And it got too scary! Maybe I should go dirt. . .

Appearance of the two cars doesn't decide it for you? Rear lights are a big difference, and interior center console is a big difference.

Since you're not doing PDK, I would go with the 997.1 S.

[QUOTE=yemenmocha;6401549]Appearance of the two cars doesn't decide it for you? Rear lights are a big difference, and interior center console is a big difference.

Maybe I'm not paying enough attention, but what's the diff with the center console?

Hard choice. The power will be about the same between the two. If you're not getting PDK, then it depends on who long you want to wait. If the wait of 5 to 6 months is killing you, move now. If you can wait and continue the dream in peace, then wait. Either way I think you will be happy with your choice. Good luck

The 997.1S is probably the way to go, I am sure you are going to get a much better deal than the .2; furthermore, you can start enjoying the car immediately instead of waiting another six months with the onset of colder weather and decreased open top enjoyment. Drove the .2, and in my opinion, it's not a big difference in performance. To pay so much more money for the esthetics is pointless. In regards to reliability, its a small percentage of cars that present with problems and Porsche is good at taking care of those issues. In addition, who is to say that the new engine does present with its own set of gremlins? Life is too short, enjoy it while you can. GL.

I think the new engines are safer to push at the track. The older engines do have reliability problems with oil pickup etc .................... or am i completely off on that?

Go for the new '09 for sure, it's like a new 911 in many ways. If you can sacrifice losing or picking up an option or two, maybe not get exactly what you want, you can get a great deal on a new '09 also. Porsche dealerships are really doing unprecedented deals now, on '09's. The 2009 will have the new PCM, with features you must take advantage of like Bluetooth & Universal Audio Adaptor, the led lights are way cool & distinctive, new engine, the resale value will be better since it's basically a new version that's more desirable. If cannot get in excess of 10K+ off a new 2009 911 in this market, do some shopping.

Since PDK not an issue, get the 997.1 no matter what anyone says, once you have the car, and you don't have the "s" badge, you'll be pissed.....no matter what the performance of the new car.

I forgot to ask....will u track it?

My choice would be the 997.2 even though I hate those tail lights.