PCCB's -- Worth Having?
He stated $950 for Iron brakes vs. $20,000 for PCCB brakes.
03-24-2009, 08:49 PM
#62
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The price for PCCB brakes on their website is far less than $20K.
Besides, the price new was only $8K and on a pre-owned car it is only a couple thousand if that. If you don't spend tons of time on the track-which I don't, and don't enjoy cleaning your wheels with any more effort than a hose off then PCCBs on a preowned 997 are a great choice. This isn't to say that the anchors don't stop very well.
I'll be the first to admit that if my car were tracked alot I would not be excited about running composite brakes. But my car is a daily driver for 7 months of the year with no track time and the PCCBs not only stop well but also look great and help keep the wheels clean. For the minimal extra cost I'd take them every time.
What is the intended use for the OP and what is the price he's really paying for the option. Certainly it isn't the BS $20K number that consistently gets thrown around.
Is it worth $1K, $2K, $4K, $0K, -$4K? That is the question.
Besides, the price new was only $8K and on a pre-owned car it is only a couple thousand if that. If you don't spend tons of time on the track-which I don't, and don't enjoy cleaning your wheels with any more effort than a hose off then PCCBs on a preowned 997 are a great choice. This isn't to say that the anchors don't stop very well.
I'll be the first to admit that if my car were tracked alot I would not be excited about running composite brakes. But my car is a daily driver for 7 months of the year with no track time and the PCCBs not only stop well but also look great and help keep the wheels clean. For the minimal extra cost I'd take them every time.
What is the intended use for the OP and what is the price he's really paying for the option. Certainly it isn't the BS $20K number that consistently gets thrown around.
Is it worth $1K, $2K, $4K, $0K, -$4K? That is the question.
03-24-2009, 11:04 PM
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The price for PCCB brakes on their website is far less than $20K.
Besides, the price new was only $8K and on a pre-owned car it is only a couple thousand if that. If you don't spend tons of time on the track-which I don't, and don't enjoy cleaning your wheels with any more effort than a hose off then PCCBs on a preowned 997 are a great choice. This isn't to say that the anchors don't stop very well.
I'll be the first to admit that if my car were tracked alot I would not be excited about running composite brakes. But my car is a daily driver for 7 months of the year with no track time and the PCCBs not only stop well but also look great and help keep the wheels clean. For the minimal extra cost I'd take them every time.
What is the intended use for the OP and what is the price he's really paying for the option. Certainly it isn't the BS $20K number that consistently gets thrown around.
Is it worth $1K, $2K, $4K, $0K, -$4K? That is the question.
Besides, the price new was only $8K and on a pre-owned car it is only a couple thousand if that. If you don't spend tons of time on the track-which I don't, and don't enjoy cleaning your wheels with any more effort than a hose off then PCCBs on a preowned 997 are a great choice. This isn't to say that the anchors don't stop very well.
I'll be the first to admit that if my car were tracked alot I would not be excited about running composite brakes. But my car is a daily driver for 7 months of the year with no track time and the PCCBs not only stop well but also look great and help keep the wheels clean. For the minimal extra cost I'd take them every time.
What is the intended use for the OP and what is the price he's really paying for the option. Certainly it isn't the BS $20K number that consistently gets thrown around.
Is it worth $1K, $2K, $4K, $0K, -$4K? That is the question.
However, one of the original questions asked by the OP was "Do they require more maintenance / higher costs when they need to be replaced?"
Yes, the $20K was too high. The $15K that gets "thrown around" seems pretty accurate.
Suncoast Prices
PCCB Front Rotors.......... $7,856.30
PCCB Rear Rotors........... $6,990.00
PCCB Front Brake Pad Set.. $278.00
PCCB Rear Brake Pad Set... $279.90
Total............................ $15,404.20
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03-24-2009, 11:19 PM
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03-25-2009, 02:05 AM
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MLindgren - let me make sure I have this straight.
Regardless of how the cost is viewed, $8k new, $15k replacement cost, or $4k added to a used car price, you are a fan not because of unsprung weight, not because of less fade under hard core braking, but because your daily driver's wheels stay cleaner?!?!?!?
Just keeping my facts straight.
Regardless of how the cost is viewed, $8k new, $15k replacement cost, or $4k added to a used car price, you are a fan not because of unsprung weight, not because of less fade under hard core braking, but because your daily driver's wheels stay cleaner?!?!?!?
Just keeping my facts straight.
03-25-2009, 04:29 AM
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It's hard not to see the PCCBs as a gimmick.
Lower unsprung weight---but you'll never notice this on street driving and many people who track prefer to switch over to iron rotors.
better grip---well no real difference in fade or breaking ability between the iron and CCBs so where's the beef? If you don't track how many consequtive 100 - 0 stops are you making on a daily basis anyway? And if you do see above.
little brake dust---ahhhhh............... OK; you got me there.
the yellow calipers are prettier---true dat. especially with powder coated black wheels.
better grip when wet---ah, well actually the iron rotors are better so this is a drawback of the CCBs.
replacement cost of pads or, heaven forbid, rotors---no competition here; the iron ones win hands down.
Lower unsprung weight---but you'll never notice this on street driving and many people who track prefer to switch over to iron rotors.
better grip---well no real difference in fade or breaking ability between the iron and CCBs so where's the beef? If you don't track how many consequtive 100 - 0 stops are you making on a daily basis anyway? And if you do see above.
little brake dust---ahhhhh............... OK; you got me there.
the yellow calipers are prettier---true dat. especially with powder coated black wheels.
better grip when wet---ah, well actually the iron rotors are better so this is a drawback of the CCBs.
replacement cost of pads or, heaven forbid, rotors---no competition here; the iron ones win hands down.
03-25-2009, 07:38 PM
#70
Three Wheelin'
MLindgren - let me make sure I have this straight.
Regardless of how the cost is viewed, $8k new, $15k replacement cost, or $4k added to a used car price, you are a fan not because of unsprung weight, not because of less fade under hard core braking, but because your daily driver's wheels stay cleaner?!?!?!?
Just keeping my facts straight.
Regardless of how the cost is viewed, $8k new, $15k replacement cost, or $4k added to a used car price, you are a fan not because of unsprung weight, not because of less fade under hard core braking, but because your daily driver's wheels stay cleaner?!?!?!?
Just keeping my facts straight.
