PCCB's -- Worth Having?
03-19-2009, 06:47 PM
#31
Race Director
03-19-2009, 08:14 PM
#32
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03-19-2009, 08:38 PM
#34
correct....
Yup.....or adding a gt3 front end on a none gt3 car, RS wings and gt2 wings as well on none GT line cars.... I have seen done in good taste many times...To me what makes the wonderful world of P cars so great.... being different, unique.....etc... so many have dual round s or s like exhaust tips on a none S car.... to me looks great, (did it, ceramic coat black) unless one badges the car S I think its great. My god how many next gen wheels have we seen on cars that the car did not come with.... Turbo wheels on none turbo cars, S line wheels on none S cars....even 997 wheels or 996 wheels on 993's....Yes I have RUF wheels and my car is by no means a Ruf'd car.....
None of the above in the same catagory as adding a Turbo or gt2/gt3 emblem to a car that is NOT a turbo or gt series car,,,, etc.,.. that I am in no way on board with.....
None of the above in the same catagory as adding a Turbo or gt2/gt3 emblem to a car that is NOT a turbo or gt series car,,,, etc.,.. that I am in no way on board with.....
03-19-2009, 08:42 PM
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from a purchase POV, what concerns me is the fragility, because the wear characteristics seem exceptional.
b
03-19-2009, 08:43 PM
#36
Nordschleife Master
Yup.....or adding a gt3 front end on a none gt3 car, RS wings and gt2 wings as well on other model cars I have seen done in good taste...To me what makes the wonderful world of P cars so great.... being different, unique.....etc...
None of the above in the same catagory as adding a Turbo or gtX emblem to a car that is NOT a turbo or gt series car,,,, etc.,.. that I am in no way on board with.....
None of the above in the same catagory as adding a Turbo or gtX emblem to a car that is NOT a turbo or gt series car,,,, etc.,.. that I am in no way on board with.....
03-19-2009, 08:48 PM
#37
I agree
in this case I 100% agree, re-badging your car claiming its a model it is not is in a different catagory all itself...
03-19-2009, 08:59 PM
#38
Three Wheelin'
I do love hearing your first hand experience on the up/down side of having PCCBs.
03-19-2009, 09:15 PM
#39
The only dust I get can be easily rinsed off with a garden hose at std. water pressure. When I hear of brake dust I think of my wifes Audi that has hot brake dust that eats its' way into the wheel and has to be scrubbed off using chemical wheel cleaner every 2-3 hundred miles. I'm not sure it was even brake dust as opposed to regular dust in the environment.
I do love hearing your first hand experience on the up/down side of having PCCBs.
I do love hearing your first hand experience on the up/down side of having PCCBs.
03-23-2009, 11:40 AM
#40
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A few comments.
is there such a thing as "excessive tracking?"
ceramic brakes are a performance upgrade - better perf at high temps is the goal. no?
for the life of me, how can less brake dust even enter the conversation when talking about an $8k option? i hear it all the time but boy, you can get a lot of detailing for that coin.
as for painting calipers yellow, pullllease. any photo of painted yellow calipers should include a link to ebay listings for a matching fake rolex
brendan
is there such a thing as "excessive tracking?"
ceramic brakes are a performance upgrade - better perf at high temps is the goal. no?for the life of me, how can less brake dust even enter the conversation when talking about an $8k option? i hear it all the time but boy, you can get a lot of detailing for that coin.
as for painting calipers yellow, pullllease. any photo of painted yellow calipers should include a link to ebay listings for a matching fake rolex
brendan
03-23-2009, 12:00 PM
#41
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03-23-2009, 04:13 PM
#42
Three Wheelin'
I have them and love them. I think you will find most people who have them would not want to be without them. Most people who do not have them, and have never tried them say they are too expensive, offer no tangible performance upgrade, and are too expensive, but have never owned nor driven a car equipped with them.
03-23-2009, 05:59 PM
#43
Race Director
is it the case that it's easy to get similar performace with fluid & pads - but that you don't get the daily driver benefits? i drove the PCCBs on the track and loved them. they were truly outstanding. i've also used pagid yellows at the track but they're so noisy under normal/street driving you must change them out and so that's just one more thing to do. in a perfect world, i'd have the performance and quiet....
from a purchase POV, what concerns me is the fragility, because the wear characteristics seem exceptional.
b
from a purchase POV, what concerns me is the fragility, because the wear characteristics seem exceptional.
b
I like PCCB's too but can not afford $15,000 for new rotors, take the chance on damaging them at the track which I have seen personally.If you can afford PCCB's they might be the way to go. However I have not found with my track buddies that PCCB's actually stop better than S brakes, nor did a magazine test last year.
Any pad built for the abuse of the track will squeal under normal street driving...just like stock pads will disenagrate that the track but actually stop you better on the street. It take heat build up for track pads to really work.
03-23-2009, 06:27 PM
#44
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blk on blk, I had them once and won't bother again.
03-23-2009, 06:39 PM
#45
Nordschleife Master
So, actually, PCCB's could be considered a negative with regard
to purchasing a pre-owned 997.
I wish this car had regular steel brakes, it is in excellent
condition and 15k miles.
Can you switch the brakes to steel when the rotors needs
to be replaced or is that a difficult task?
to purchasing a pre-owned 997.
I wish this car had regular steel brakes, it is in excellent
condition and 15k miles.
Can you switch the brakes to steel when the rotors needs
to be replaced or is that a difficult task?
Nothing wrong w/ PCCBs especially for street or occasional track use.