Since the 997.2 is taking more of a tiptronic approach...
12-24-2008, 04:59 PM
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Since the 997.2 is taking more of a tiptronic approach...
will this car even be respected? I have been to 2 dealers and all the 997.2s are all tiptronic. i have yet to see one in manual.
are these days done for the 911 enthusiast?
are these days done for the 911 enthusiast?
12-24-2008, 05:08 PM
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Not really fair to characterize PDK as a Tiptronic. The only think it has in common with a Tip is the lack of a clutch pedal.
12-24-2008, 05:14 PM
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no clutch = casket closed on the enthusiasts, end of an era.. LOVE how porsche did this quietly... only recourse is to load up on the used 993s
12-24-2008, 05:23 PM
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i am just so tired of it.. the 997 was a return to the knuckle roots of the 993 after the 996 was a complete disaster for porsche. now they go and add all this soft tiptronic garbage. after the 997 being the best selling 911 ever, youd think theyd stay course.
i cant be alone in this belief
i cant be alone in this belief
12-24-2008, 05:28 PM
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Discussions such as this always bring to my mind a picture of long ago and folks sitting around a coal stove in the general store. They are discussing how sad they are that the real skill of driving is being lost because these modern transmissions have syncronizers, and can you imagine those hydraulic brakes! Why, they stop you sooner, but gosh, they don't require half the leg strength. And what are folks going to do not that you can't adjust the timing from the driver's seat like you can on a Model A.
I doubt anyone would disagree that when driving a Model A you were much more involved with the process, but that doesn't mean that the PDK means the end of enjoying a drive.
I doubt anyone would disagree that when driving a Model A you were much more involved with the process, but that doesn't mean that the PDK means the end of enjoying a drive.
12-24-2008, 05:29 PM
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GATSBY - the 6 speed is still available. Don['t be so fast to dis the PDK it is not anything like the Tiptronic slushbox. Think Ferrari F1 transmission... only better.
It will be popular and dealers wisely ordered their early arrivals with PDK.
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It will be popular and dealers wisely ordered their early arrivals with PDK.
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12-24-2008, 05:31 PM
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Once the novelty wears off and most people take a second look and ride in a manual transmission car, I think that the manual transmission car will still categorize the majority of new car buyers. Right now PDK is THE new technology at Porsche and so it gets all the attention. In time this new fascination will fade and even those who have a PDK option will choose manual transmission in their next car. Rowing the gears is just more rewarding and fulfilling than straight shot floor boarding, at least for me. For those who have a long commute or drive in heavy traffic, the PDK is one solution, but in such a scenario, I would have a second high mileage, low mileage car as a commuter. Seems like a travesty to use a Porsche as a commuter car.
12-24-2008, 05:34 PM
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Discussions such as this always bring to my mind a picture of long ago and folks sitting around a coal stove in the general store. They are discussing how sad they are that the real skill of driving is being lost because these modern transmissions have syncronizers, and can you imagine those hydraulic brakes! Why, they stop you sooner, but gosh, they don't require half the leg strength. And what are folks going to do not that you can't adjust the timing from the driver's seat like you can on a Model A.
I doubt anyone would disagree that when driving a Model A you were much more involved with the process, but that doesn't mean that the PDK means the end of enjoying a drive.
I doubt anyone would disagree that when driving a Model A you were much more involved with the process, but that doesn't mean that the PDK means the end of enjoying a drive.
just because porsche does it - doesnt mean its right. there was an uproar over the 996 lights, so porsche changed them for the 997 cuz they listened to their base.
12-24-2008, 05:36 PM
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yes i know there is still a manual, but we are 911 guys, not ferrari guys. ferraris date worse than bad fruit. there is no classic look to them like there is on a 930, 964 etc. why follow ferrari in the wrong direction? doesnt make much sense
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Quietly??? Porsche has been spouting the PDK since they promised to bring it to market. Every press release featured it, highlighted it, espoused it. There was nothing quite about its debut.