When supercharging, does it matter if a car has x51 or not?
09-28-2007, 07:40 PM
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That is why the Ruf is so expensive as they tear into the shortblock with a piston change. Also I don't think the 997 motors use a forged piston but a cast hyperutectic piston which will also limit the amount of boost you can run through these things. With Ruf they solve this problem by going with a better low compression piston.
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09-28-2007, 07:45 PM
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Old wives tale really? Than who boosts high comp. engines other than these small tuning companies?? I haven't seen any car company do it. What about warranties, who will warranty a boosted high compression motor?, Not Porsche. Hey if it ain't boosted from the factory than I don't want it and I don't trust it. But thats just me.
It is pretty obvious why the carrera S isn't supercharged from the factory, porsche has a rigid hierarchy in their models. Superchargers are for those who want more than the factory offers, just because porsche doesn't do it from the factory doesn't mean it can't be done correctly.
09-28-2007, 08:35 PM
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09-28-2007, 09:08 PM
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09-28-2007, 10:02 PM
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09-28-2007, 10:35 PM
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Problem is using a thicker head gasket to lower compression is not the right way to do this. Maybe at the boost levels that they are running you can be OK but heaven help you if you turn up the wick a tad (more boost).
You look at manafactuers that use a huffer as OEM what goes into those motors. Even Ford with the 03-04 Mustang SVT and now the 07 Shelby GT 500 use forged pistons and Manley forged rods (Mahle for the Shelby) and a nodular crank. I guess the Ruf way is better than not doing anything as far as the compression ratio is concerned.
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09-28-2007, 10:41 PM
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Metal headgaskets have been used for 50+ years to lower compression in an engine. Properly designed and installed, they are perminent and without weakness. Why would anyone either replace pistons and/or rods or install new heads when a gasket is just as good unless the engine was already torn down?
09-28-2007, 11:31 PM
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Sure you can supercharge an X51, as long as it belongs to somebody else. Even supercharging a regular 3.8L is not recommended. You know that old saying, a fool and his money are easily parted.
It would be cheaper (and offer greater peace of mind to most) to buy a variant of the Turbo, the real experts (Porsche) have already done the work for you and will be around to stand behind the warranty.
Caveat Emptor!
It would be cheaper (and offer greater peace of mind to most) to buy a variant of the Turbo, the real experts (Porsche) have already done the work for you and will be around to stand behind the warranty.
Caveat Emptor!
09-29-2007, 12:52 AM
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Sure you can supercharge an X51, as long as it belongs to somebody else. Even supercharging a regular 3.8L is not recommended. You know that old saying, a fool and his money are easily parted.
It would be cheaper (and offer greater peace of mind to most) to buy a variant of the Turbo, the real experts (Porsche) have already done the work for you and will be around to stand behind the warranty.
Caveat Emptor!
It would be cheaper (and offer greater peace of mind to most) to buy a variant of the Turbo, the real experts (Porsche) have already done the work for you and will be around to stand behind the warranty.
Caveat Emptor!
09-29-2007, 08:14 AM
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Sure you can supercharge an X51, as long as it belongs to somebody else. Even supercharging a regular 3.8L is not recommended. You know that old saying, a fool and his money are easily parted.
It would be cheaper (and offer greater peace of mind to most) to buy a variant of the Turbo, the real experts (Porsche) have already done the work for you and will be around to stand behind the warranty.
Caveat Emptor!
It would be cheaper (and offer greater peace of mind to most) to buy a variant of the Turbo, the real experts (Porsche) have already done the work for you and will be around to stand behind the warranty.
Caveat Emptor!
We all understand that NA the 997 GT3 is the car to buy if the goal is naturally aspirated horsepower. That vehicle produces over 100 WHEEL hp per liter. I realize a 997 S will never be able to achieve that.
What I don't understand is why people continue to think the standard 997 and 997s owners dont get it. The aftermarket for these vehicles is just as viable as it is for turbos. If not more so, as there are plenty more 997 and 997s's sold. Supercharged 997 owners are performance enthusiasts just as turbo or GT3 or whatever else owners. Hardly fools who don't know what to do with their money.
09-29-2007, 08:16 AM
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09-29-2007, 08:18 AM
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Metal headgaskets have been used for 50+ years to lower compression in an engine. Properly designed and installed, they are perminent and without weakness. Why would anyone either replace pistons and/or rods or install new heads when a gasket is just as good unless the engine was already torn down?
09-29-2007, 08:53 AM
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Don't know an don't care.
If I had to guess, you are paying a premium for the name and warranty. It is also more costly than the others as you have to remove the heads.Why do people buy a Rolex when a $29.95 Timex gives you the same performance?
09-29-2007, 09:30 AM
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