mdrobc1213

A friend of mine suggested that I switch to Hawk HPS pads on my 997 after he took a look at my car at work one afternoon and noticed alot of brake dust on my wheels. Some looking into this says the OEM pads do produce a little more brake dust the aftermarket ones.

Anyone with any experience with Hawk HPS? Or other suggestions? I don't track the car yet and other than spirited daily driving don't plan to do so. I'll leave the track work for the '08 M3 I am interested in.

Anyway what are folks using with good results?
Also has anyone replaced their brake lines with steel braided? OR Bembro upgrades? If so what what the reasoning/goals? and costs?

Thanks
Rob

911Dave

If brake dust bothers you, try Metal Masters. They shed almost no dust at all, are kind to rotors, and don't cost much.

I have witnessed endless debate on OEM vs. steel braided lines, and never have I seen or heard any compelling evidence that steel braided lines are better for anything but a professional race car. Lots of guys argue why they think they're better, but arguments are not evidence.

Have you ever in your life heard of a soft brake line failing, due to other than age-related deterioration? Neither have I.

dyi

I also have found no compelling evidence to support its use. Certain braided lines(the ones without the silicone outer jacket) can even fail earlier than the regular ones as dirt can become embedded under the braids and act as an abrasive against the rubber underneath.

Some may argue that improves pedal "feel" but i suppose that is subjective.

ADias

Is changing from OEM brake pads wise, from a safety perspective? I mean, PAG stands behind its brakes' components and the test of time has proven those are excellent brakes. Changing my not be. Comments?

Jim Michaels

Porsche OEM pads are supplied by 3 or 4 different manufacturers. Perhaps some dust less than others. As Dave said, Metal Masters have a rep for very low dusting. Keep the OEM brake lines.

nkhalidi

Kind of OT, but I'd personally reverse your car roles: E92 M3 for street (big, heavy, soft, comfortable, large interior/trunk) and 997 for track (lighter, more tossable, better brakes/suspension/steering/hardparts). Just a thought.

911Dave

That's right. Pagid, Jurid, Mintex and Textar have all been Porsche OEM pad suppliers in the past.

fuenfer

Mine say "Textar" on the back ...

mdrobc1213

Where do you find metal masters? Tried Tire Rack and they had NO PRODUCTS for my 997 as far as brake pads went.

Holli82

I was thinking the same thing but it's Rob's choice/$$$$.

Jim Michaels

I'm not even sure they make Metal Masters for the 997. I know they make them for the 944, '88 911, and '93 911 RSA. I haven't looked for them or used them since the RSA. They were originally Repco Metal Masters, but I've recently seen them as PBR and Axxis Metal Masters. They're not track pads, but I liked them everywhere else, including autocross; almost no dust, no squeal, good slowing torque, long wearing, kind to rotors, and relatively inexpensive.

mdrobc1213

Okay...got it. Any other online sources out there anybody for their prefered brand of pads?

mdrobc1213

Thanks...but the fear of me putting my 997 into a wall or something prevents me from doing that. Now if I put the e92 M3 into one then hey I wouldn't feel AS bad..it's a BMW but the Carrera oh I'd be sick.

mdrums

Absolutly +1

mdrums

Stock 'big red" 997S brakes (rotor, calipers and pads) are way more than enough for the street and even a few track days and autoX's a year. I DE'd all year on my stock brakes until I got up to solo this year and went really hard on the brakes that I wore out the pads. I replaced the pads with Pagid Yellow RS-29.