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Old 02-02-2007, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Not really...European debuts and sales are always at least a few months ahead of the US. If the European intro is at Frankfurt, the US debut will be at either the LA or Detroit show next winter, with cars being delivered shortly after.
If US sales are a few months behind the Euro sales as in this Sept/Frankfurt, would we still have to wait until next winter; no chance for say an April 2008 US launch?

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Old 02-02-2007, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Not really...European debuts and sales are always at least a few months ahead of the US. If the European intro is at Frankfurt, the US debut will be at either the LA or Detroit show next winter, with cars being delivered shortly after.
A one year lag?......not going to happen.
U.S. 997 MY08 sales would be dead in anticipation.
Old 02-02-2007, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by stubenhocker
It's uncanny how each time this subject is brought up, people who have one of the current versions always think that the new version is somehow not as good, pretty, functional or sexy as the version THEY own!

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Old 02-02-2007, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 500
If US sales are a few months behind the Euro sales as in this Sept/Frankfurt, would we still have to wait until next winter; no chance for say an April 2008 US launch?
Huh? It's winter now...the next winter will be a year from now...early in calendar year 2008. That's when we'll see the facelifted car as a 2008.5 or 2009.
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It's new and as a Porsche owner, I therefore do not like it. Whatever year I own is the last real 911; everything after that is either more cheaply made or not as enjoyable to drive or both.
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Huh? It's winter now...the next winter will be a year from now...early in calendar year 2008. That's when we'll see the facelifted car as a 2008.5 or 2009.
It sounded as if you were saying a year from the Frankfurt show (Sept 07) which would be Dec 08 ("european debuts a few months ahead"). I guess GregT and I read it incorrectly.

"Not really...European debuts and sales are always at least a few months ahead of the US. If the European intro is at Frankfurt, the US debut will be at either the LA or Detroit show next winter, with cars being delivered shortly after."

I still mantain the thought of my original statement; why would Porsche come out with an 08 in Sept 2007 then introduce the facelifted cars in early 2008 as an 08.5 or even an 09?

GregT summed it up best: "A one year lag?......not going to happen.
U.S. 997 MY08 sales would be dead in anticipation".

GreggT

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Old 02-02-2007, 07:10 PM
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Hey Porsche, any news on a F1 clutchless type of transmission?
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Old 02-02-2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 500
...why would Porsche come out with an 08 in Sept 2007 then introduce the facelifted cars in early 2008 as an 08.5 or even an 09?

GregT summed it up best: "A one year lag?......not going to happen.
U.S. 997 MY08 sales would be dead in anticipation".

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Because the cars that will arrive in dealers in September will have been built in July. They are obviously still testing the facelifted cars. Production of the facelifted cars will probably start in September after the factory summer break in August, with Euro-spec cars first, followed by US cars in Nov-Dec for early 2008 delivery.

There is no way facelifted US-spec cars will arrive in dealerships before it is introduced in Frankfurt, and there is no way there will be a five month gap in 997 deliveries (between MY2007 and the facelifted model). Besides, dealers are quoting that there will be no changes for the 2008 model year...so there will be one, however short.

There is no "one year lag"...
Old 02-02-2007, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBonus
It's new and as a Porsche owner, I therefore do not like it. Whatever year I own is the last real 911; everything after that is either more cheaply made or not as enjoyable to drive or both.
That's a great quote. You should put it in your sig.
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Originally Posted by PTurbo965
That's a great quote.
I agree.

Well said, Ian.
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Here's a question: Suppose this "facelift" version also comes with a small bump in engine horsepower. Would this version have an increased chance of having reliability issues, much like the 997 (and every previous version) did when it came out? Or is this less likely because the changes would be minor tweaks rather than complete overhauls?
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Originally Posted by geof
Here's a question: Suppose this "facelift" version also comes with a small bump in engine horsepower. Would this version have an increased chance of having reliability issues, much like the 997 (and every previous version) did when it came out? Or is this less likely because the changes would be minor tweaks rather than complete overhauls?
The hp bump would most likely be related to the new direct injection system, since Audi has already been using direct injection it should be ok but it's still a different application in a Porsche however.



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