Real 997 Used Values and Questions
Racer
Joined: Jun 2006
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From: Woodland Hills, CA
SoCal sucks... got mine in Texas and had it shipped here... to my house. To bad because the LA Auto Gallery is 5 minutes away yet sooo much more expensive. At least I can test drive. Makes you wonder how much the SoCal dealers lose to out of area buyers...
Three Wheelin'
Joined: Jan 2004
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From: los angeles
i'm also a so cal rusnak customer. my only leverage was that i was an "end of year, final day" customer (along with 11 others that were sold) so i was able to reduce the price 3.5k from their original asking price. what did my last experience teach me?
-kelly blue book means very little over here
-what the market will bear means a lot
-when there are 11 other cars being sold the same day you have less leverage
-this area (including beverly hills) is an affluent demographic....i walk out and they simply sell the car, tomorrow.
-it did help being a return customer
-i still think i paid too much but it was the exact color combo i was after so tip the scales in their favor
-negotiating does work however tiresome it might be....the thing in the porsche world is that there is very little room for negotiating, for the most part.
-kelly blue book means very little over here
-what the market will bear means a lot
-when there are 11 other cars being sold the same day you have less leverage
-this area (including beverly hills) is an affluent demographic....i walk out and they simply sell the car, tomorrow.
-it did help being a return customer
-i still think i paid too much but it was the exact color combo i was after so tip the scales in their favor
-negotiating does work however tiresome it might be....the thing in the porsche world is that there is very little room for negotiating, for the most part.
Intermediate
Joined: May 2006
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Originally Posted by pl
NJ has 10 p-car dealers. plus p-car dealers in NY/CT/PA. they have lots of competition.
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From: La La Land
I'd been searching for 6 months nationwide for an '05 C2S coupe and was also looking at C2S cabs. Ended up with a C2S cab that I purchased in mid December in SoCal. Here's what my exhaustive searching found:
Avg to well optioned C2S coupes run in the $72-78K range in SoCal; $68-75K nationally. I kept running the costs on shipper cars and when I factored in an airfare, hotel, shipping costs and my time, the discount mostly evaporated. The C2S coupes any place in CA that were competitively priced went amazingly fast. You have to be ready to pounce the second you find the right car. Search all the for sale listings first thing in the morning and at the end of the day. The best advice I got was from posters here: be patient.
I ended up with an '05 C2S cab. It's triple black with full leather, nav, bose, power seats and a few other options. MSRP was $101K. Paid $75K and believe it was a very good deal. My car went up on Autotrader on a Tuesday morning; closed the deal that afternoon. In the period before I took possession, the seller upped his Autotrader price by $3K because he'd realized he'd priced it too low. When I looked again for a similar car after purchasing, best I could find was upper $70's. My point is that deals can be had if you're patient and diligent in your search. Best of luck in finding your perfect car.
Avg to well optioned C2S coupes run in the $72-78K range in SoCal; $68-75K nationally. I kept running the costs on shipper cars and when I factored in an airfare, hotel, shipping costs and my time, the discount mostly evaporated. The C2S coupes any place in CA that were competitively priced went amazingly fast. You have to be ready to pounce the second you find the right car. Search all the for sale listings first thing in the morning and at the end of the day. The best advice I got was from posters here: be patient.
I ended up with an '05 C2S cab. It's triple black with full leather, nav, bose, power seats and a few other options. MSRP was $101K. Paid $75K and believe it was a very good deal. My car went up on Autotrader on a Tuesday morning; closed the deal that afternoon. In the period before I took possession, the seller upped his Autotrader price by $3K because he'd realized he'd priced it too low. When I looked again for a similar car after purchasing, best I could find was upper $70's. My point is that deals can be had if you're patient and diligent in your search. Best of luck in finding your perfect car.
Instructor
Joined: Nov 2006
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From: Scottsdale, AZ
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Drifting
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From: great neck, li
Originally Posted by Hartley
Same can almost be said of SoCal, 12 dealers within 100 miles of LA. Doesn't make much difference though, they sell every car they get at or near full price.
(The Porsche Premier Dealer Program identifies the top 25 Porsche Dealers in North America)
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Pro
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ChrisF,
Sounds like im looking for exactly what you got.
I dont care about the Nav or power seats, but would want full leather(and would add PSE after my 996 was transformed with it). The C4S i test drove had a great sound to it with just stock as well though.
Ive never known anyone to get blue book for anything, and usually those prices are higher.
I'll have to put a call in to my Broker who got me a smoking deal on my 996
Sounds like im looking for exactly what you got.
I dont care about the Nav or power seats, but would want full leather(and would add PSE after my 996 was transformed with it). The C4S i test drove had a great sound to it with just stock as well though.
Ive never known anyone to get blue book for anything, and usually those prices are higher.
I'll have to put a call in to my Broker who got me a smoking deal on my 996
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From: La La Land
Dr. Karl:
After living with it for a short while, I would do without the Nav again too. There are cheaper units that do a better job from the aftermarket. The power/heated seats are a must for me. I'm a freak about finding the perfect position and they help. Not only that, but you can save positions: 1. normal; 2. wife; 3. aggressive street/track. But to each their own. Best of luck, have patience and you will find the right car at the right price. BTW, the other great advice from fellow Rennlisters was not to let a small price gap ($1000-2000) deter you if it's the "perfect" car. Life is short. That much money will mean nothing over the life of the car.
After living with it for a short while, I would do without the Nav again too. There are cheaper units that do a better job from the aftermarket. The power/heated seats are a must for me. I'm a freak about finding the perfect position and they help. Not only that, but you can save positions: 1. normal; 2. wife; 3. aggressive street/track. But to each their own. Best of luck, have patience and you will find the right car at the right price. BTW, the other great advice from fellow Rennlisters was not to let a small price gap ($1000-2000) deter you if it's the "perfect" car. Life is short. That much money will mean nothing over the life of the car.
Race Car
Joined: Mar 2005
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Originally Posted by ELUSIVE
that's gotta be a scam.
Email the guy and tell him you'll pay cash. See if he responds.
My guess is no.
he'll want western union or sending money to nigeria or something like that.
Email the guy and tell him you'll pay cash. See if he responds.
My guess is no.
he'll want western union or sending money to nigeria or something like that.
Intermediate
Joined: May 2006
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Originally Posted by ChrisF
MSRP was $101K. Paid $75K and believe it was a very good deal.