Widebody C2S
12-05-2006, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by OCBen
Here's the queen of booty!!! .... And she's a white chick!
12-05-2006, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Eh, Steph is OK...holding up pretty well...I knew her in high school and during the Axl days; she's still a good friend of a friend. She's a year older than me, though...if I'm going to get excited over a nice rear end, it's going to be that of somebody a lot younger...
She must have been the hottest gal around back in high school. Yeah, I would say she's over the hill when it comes to being super hot with a nice booty. ... And I guess it goes without saying that you're over the hill too.
j/k So you're saying you and she went to the same high school??? WOW! You guys must have drooled over her. 
12-05-2006, 11:55 PM
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We didn't actually go to school together; she had already started her modeling career and was back and forth to NY when I was 16-18. She was definitely hot, but I grew up with a lot of hotties...Robin Wright Penn was a few years older, Shauna Sand and Carla Gugino were a couple years younger and were friends of mine in high school...
And, yes, unfortunately I am cresting that hill!
And, yes, unfortunately I am cresting that hill!
12-06-2006, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Edgy01
Ditto for me. Keep in mind that when they went to the wide butts on the 4s that they sacrifice their coefficient of drag (.29 to .30) for that) and every 1/100th is hard to come by. I traded .28 for .29 by going to the wider wheeled 997S over the 997,--for the power. I think that compromise is worth it. But to sacrifice another .01 cd for looks doesn't really fit the Porsche mentaility.
And yes, J-Lo has a big butt.
And yes, J-Lo has a big butt.
The drag coeff is listed as the SAME for the 2S/4S/cab4S at 0.29 on the Porsche site (see graphic below). Interestingly, adding the Tip raises the coeff to 0.30 - I'm not sure I fully understand that.
I think if there would be any criticism of the widebody, it would be the extra weight associated with the AWD (which is obviously not the case with GT3RS). The AWD adds 121 lbs to make a 2S a 4S. There is however added traction and possibly better braking of the 4S (wider rubber & pre-loaded brakes offset against extra weight = ???). Bottom line is that a 2S and 4S performed identically at the Nurburgring with W Rohrl driving. The official (i.e. Porsche) 0-60 times are equal, the 0-100 time differs by 0.1 sec (no longer on p-site) and the top end is 179 vs 182. My point is that there really is no difference in performance in 99% of drivers' hands.
Now,....Can't we all just get along?
Meow,
dave
12-06-2006, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pieter Paul
I thought the reason the GT3s have the C4 body was increased stiffness, not wider rear track.
12-06-2006, 03:31 PM
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Alan, Thanks. I understand the reasoning behind using a C4 chassis for increased stiffness. The wider body on the RS appears to be for esthetic/marketing reasons if the same size tires are mounted unless the track is widened with the wider body.
12-06-2006, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Coochas
Dan - You are being facetious,....right?
The drag coeff is listed as the SAME for the 2S/4S/cab4S at 0.29 on the Porsche site (see graphic below). Interestingly, adding the Tip raises the coeff to 0.30 - I'm not sure I fully understand that.
I think if there would be any criticism of the widebody, it would be the extra weight associated with the AWD (which is obviously not the case with GT3RS). The AWD adds 121 lbs to make a 2S a 4S. There is however added traction and possibly better braking of the 4S (wider rubber & pre-loaded brakes offset against extra weight = ???). Bottom line is that a 2S and 4S performed identically at the Nurburgring with W Rohrl driving. The official (i.e. Porsche) 0-60 times are equal, the 0-100 time differs by 0.1 sec (no longer on p-site) and the top end is 179 vs 182. My point is that there really is no difference in performance in 99% of drivers' hands.
Now,....Can't we all just get along?
Meow,
dave
The drag coeff is listed as the SAME for the 2S/4S/cab4S at 0.29 on the Porsche site (see graphic below). Interestingly, adding the Tip raises the coeff to 0.30 - I'm not sure I fully understand that.
I think if there would be any criticism of the widebody, it would be the extra weight associated with the AWD (which is obviously not the case with GT3RS). The AWD adds 121 lbs to make a 2S a 4S. There is however added traction and possibly better braking of the 4S (wider rubber & pre-loaded brakes offset against extra weight = ???). Bottom line is that a 2S and 4S performed identically at the Nurburgring with W Rohrl driving. The official (i.e. Porsche) 0-60 times are equal, the 0-100 time differs by 0.1 sec (no longer on p-site) and the top end is 179 vs 182. My point is that there really is no difference in performance in 99% of drivers' hands.
Now,....Can't we all just get along?
Meow,
dave
Thanks for coming to my rescue, thought I was going to have to argue this battle alone...
12-06-2006, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KANSAS997
Thanks for coming to my rescue, thought I was going to have to argue this battle alone...
12-06-2006, 05:03 PM
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I suspect that the numbers for drag coefficient listed above are not accurate, even though it's lifted from the official website, and may suggest sloppy documentation on their part.
A coupe is always more aerodynamic than a ragtop. And I doubt that it's due to rounding error when only two significant figures are used to list the cd.
A coupe is always more aerodynamic than a ragtop. And I doubt that it's due to rounding error when only two significant figures are used to list the cd.
12-06-2006, 07:00 PM
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Thanks for the numbers. Not nearly as much as I thought it would be. The mechanics behind it is interesting as they make that up with 17mm spacers.