Creating mp3 CD's for Porsche CD player
09-18-2006, 01:07 AM
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Creating mp3 CD's for Porsche CD player
Just thought I'd share my last hour of experimentation. I'm sure there are experts out there who can correct anything I say here which my not be technically correct.
I use Yahoo music service, which is WMA-based (I think i-tunes will work similarly, but I'm not sure).
SCENARIO 1: Songs purchased on-line
1. For songs which are purchased, and downloaded in WMA format, I found that I needed to burn an "audio" CD (as opposed to an mp3 CD) with these songs.
(This may be obvious to most, but an mp3 CD is essentially a CD-R with data files, whereas an audio CD is like the one's purchased in stores.)
2. From the audio CD, I then "ripped" the songs back to my computer in mp3 format using the Yahoo music engine.
3. I could then burn these mp3 files back to another CD in mp3 format (i.e. data files).
4. The obvious benefit of an mp3 CD (as opposed to an audio CD) is that they can hold a couple of hundred songs because of the mp3 compression. A CD-R is about 700 megabytes, and songs are around 3 to 4 megabytes.
Presumably the sound suffers compared to an audio CD, but the audio CD can only hold 15 to 20 songs. In casual listening, I couldn't tell much difference in audio quality between the two, however.
SCENARIO 2: Songs from your own Audio CD's
For songs which I ripped from CD's I owned, I could burn those directly to the mp3 CD without the interim step described above.
SCENARIO 3: Subscription songs
To my knowledge "subscription" songs (perhaps unique to Yahoo) cannot be burned to a CD in any circumstances.
I am by no means an expert on this topic, just wanted to share what worked for me.
Hope this helps.
P.S. the logo on the Porsche CD player says both mp3 and WMA, so presumably unprotected WMA's could also be played. I haven't tried this, however.
I use Yahoo music service, which is WMA-based (I think i-tunes will work similarly, but I'm not sure).
SCENARIO 1: Songs purchased on-line
1. For songs which are purchased, and downloaded in WMA format, I found that I needed to burn an "audio" CD (as opposed to an mp3 CD) with these songs.
(This may be obvious to most, but an mp3 CD is essentially a CD-R with data files, whereas an audio CD is like the one's purchased in stores.)
2. From the audio CD, I then "ripped" the songs back to my computer in mp3 format using the Yahoo music engine.
3. I could then burn these mp3 files back to another CD in mp3 format (i.e. data files).
4. The obvious benefit of an mp3 CD (as opposed to an audio CD) is that they can hold a couple of hundred songs because of the mp3 compression. A CD-R is about 700 megabytes, and songs are around 3 to 4 megabytes.
Presumably the sound suffers compared to an audio CD, but the audio CD can only hold 15 to 20 songs. In casual listening, I couldn't tell much difference in audio quality between the two, however.
SCENARIO 2: Songs from your own Audio CD's
For songs which I ripped from CD's I owned, I could burn those directly to the mp3 CD without the interim step described above.
SCENARIO 3: Subscription songs
To my knowledge "subscription" songs (perhaps unique to Yahoo) cannot be burned to a CD in any circumstances.
I am by no means an expert on this topic, just wanted to share what worked for me.
Hope this helps.
P.S. the logo on the Porsche CD player says both mp3 and WMA, so presumably unprotected WMA's could also be played. I haven't tried this, however.
09-18-2006, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Vancouver83LTD
why did you not try to just convert them to mp3 on the computer?
I don't have a program for direct conversion (unless this can be done in Windows Media Player). Also, do you think this would work given the fact these songs are WMA's from Yahoo Music Engine." I assumed that although Yahoo has this service, and allows purchased songs to be burned to CD, it still needs to make things difficult for mass copiers.
So I assume you found out how to create files for mp3 cds?
I don't have a program for direct conversion (unless this can be done in Windows Media Player). Also, do you think this would work given the fact these songs are WMA's from Yahoo Music Engine." I assumed that although Yahoo has this service, and allows purchased songs to be burned to CD, it still needs to make things difficult for mass copiers.
So I assume you found out how to create files for mp3 cds?
09-18-2006, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Vancouver83LTD
why did you not try to just convert them to mp3 on the computer?
So I assume you found out how to create files for mp3 cds?
So I assume you found out how to create files for mp3 cds?
Of course, if you are the rightful owner of the digital content this isn't an issue, but these programs are frequently used for ... less than legal activities.
09-18-2006, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by meaker
What's the best way convert Itunes music into mp3? Is there a cheap program to do this?
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09-19-2006, 11:05 AM
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iTunes can be configured to import using different encoders.
09-19-2006, 11:44 AM
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For iTunes if you select the song and then right click you'll get an option to convert it to MP3. It actually copies it to MP3 so you'll have both versions on your PC. It works great.
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09-19-2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt(inMA)
For iTunes if you select the song and then right click you'll get an option to convert it to MP3. It actually copies it to MP3 so you'll have both versions on your PC. It works great.
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09-19-2006, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by meaker
What's the best way convert Itunes music into mp3? Is there a cheap program to do this?
I'm using AudioGrabber from www.tunebite.com. It costs about $20. This has been working fine for me. I also tried Hymn (hymn-project.org) which is free, but couldn't get it to work.
09-19-2006, 01:38 PM
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The issue with iTunes is on purchased songs from iTunes, NOT songs imported from a CD. Songs that are purchased from iTunes carry a protected AAC format. These protected songs will not convert nor download into MP3 format. The only method I currently know to get these purchased songs to MP3 is to make a regular CD and then re-import the CD ensuring your download format is set to MP3.
09-19-2006, 02:22 PM
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question: with all this reformating/ importing/ exporting of the song, would it degrade the sound quality to the point that a regular person can hear the different? If so, why spend all the money on a high end stereo system?