Motor Trend article - 911 gets knocked
09-06-2006, 12:25 AM
#61
Originally Posted by Deven
I have never been a fan of Steffie (and especially why a guy would dump Brooke for her) but that picture is very flattering...... 
As for Brooke, she looked kind of weird when I saw her on Leno last week.and by the way, overall I think Motor Trend is just a bad car mag., and I much prefer Car and Driver
09-06-2006, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by sws1
OK - Let's talk facts guys. And then I'll provide my commentary.
Fact: I am a Porsche fan, and a waiter on an October-build 911S.
Fact: I posted this link because I thought people might be interested in reading an article about the 911.
Fact: These are the exact summary quotes from the article. Since the article was written from the standpoint of picking a winner in each comparison, I stand by my original statement, whether I'm happy with the results or not.
911 vs Vette
But at the end of the day, the Z06 is a much faster, quicker, and higher-performing car--a rocket-propelled grenade to Porsche's HK416 assault rifle. The ultimate Corvette outperforms the 911 Carrera S in enough contests--and decisively enough--that it cannot be dismissed on the basis of its lower-rent interior and its hot, loud ride. When performance matters most, as it surely must for anyone considering a Z06, the 911 simply falls short. Advantage Corvette.
911 vs Aston Martin
If style matters enough for you to have tried them both on, and if you can afford either, you'll be happier in the Aston Martin.
911 vs Cayman
Being the only competitor the 911's creators have anything to say about, it should surprise nobody that the Cayman takes second in this round by a photo-finish, owing to the 911's superior overall performance. But it's only by the slimmest of margins, and as we've shown, that margin can easily be erased with bucks.
Opinion: This forum is filled with the most holier-than-thou people I've ever come across on any internet forum. Someone offers something to share, and everyone jumps on him like a bunch of snobs. I'm called a troll, the taliban, a mis-reader, a Chevy salesman, infiltrator, and an instigator. Very nice guys.
Guess this forum isn't for me.
Fact: I am a Porsche fan, and a waiter on an October-build 911S.
Fact: I posted this link because I thought people might be interested in reading an article about the 911.
Fact: These are the exact summary quotes from the article. Since the article was written from the standpoint of picking a winner in each comparison, I stand by my original statement, whether I'm happy with the results or not.
911 vs Vette
But at the end of the day, the Z06 is a much faster, quicker, and higher-performing car--a rocket-propelled grenade to Porsche's HK416 assault rifle. The ultimate Corvette outperforms the 911 Carrera S in enough contests--and decisively enough--that it cannot be dismissed on the basis of its lower-rent interior and its hot, loud ride. When performance matters most, as it surely must for anyone considering a Z06, the 911 simply falls short. Advantage Corvette.
911 vs Aston Martin
If style matters enough for you to have tried them both on, and if you can afford either, you'll be happier in the Aston Martin.
911 vs Cayman
Being the only competitor the 911's creators have anything to say about, it should surprise nobody that the Cayman takes second in this round by a photo-finish, owing to the 911's superior overall performance. But it's only by the slimmest of margins, and as we've shown, that margin can easily be erased with bucks.
Opinion: This forum is filled with the most holier-than-thou people I've ever come across on any internet forum. Someone offers something to share, and everyone jumps on him like a bunch of snobs. I'm called a troll, the taliban, a mis-reader, a Chevy salesman, infiltrator, and an instigator. Very nice guys.
Guess this forum isn't for me.
Like someone else posted, please stick around if you're a car fan, and have some thicker skin - we can take it as well as dish it out.
On topic, I would love to know how many articles have been written in the 40+ years of the 911 that basically wrote how terrible the car was from any aspect?
Iconic doesn't even come close to describing these machines.
09-06-2006, 08:22 AM
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if you search we've argued the Porsche vs. the world thing so many times we just get a little bitchy
Over the last 30 years I've met well over 50 owners of 911s and vettes. The owners I met fall into one of three cargories:
1.911 is the king and vettes are garbage and would never consider buying a vette - about 20%
2. Vette is the king and 911s are underpowered, overpriced, overhyped garbage and would never consider buying one - about 10%
3. 911s and vettes are both outstanding sports cars and I've either owned both of them or would consider buying either - about 70%
Over the last 30 years I've met well over 50 owners of 911s and vettes. The owners I met fall into one of three cargories:
1.911 is the king and vettes are garbage and would never consider buying a vette - about 20%
2. Vette is the king and 911s are underpowered, overpriced, overhyped garbage and would never consider buying one - about 10%
3. 911s and vettes are both outstanding sports cars and I've either owned both of them or would consider buying either - about 70%
09-06-2006, 12:35 PM
#64
To each is own. But this is a Porsche Board and we Porsche owners have a lot of product loyalty. I imagine if one went over to the Vette Board and started bragging about Porsches the reaction would be the same.
09-06-2006, 04:11 PM
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Motor Trend Car of the Year Complete Winners List
2006 Honda Civic
2005 Chrysler 300
2004 Toyota Prius
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe / Sedan
2002 Ford Thunderbird
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
2000 Lincoln LS
1999 Chrysler 300M
1998 Chevrolet Corvette
1997 Chevrolet Malibu
1996 Dodge Caravan
1995 Chrysler Cirrus
1994 Ford Mustang
1993 Ford Probe GT
1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
1990 Lincoln Town Car
1989 Ford Thunderbird SC
1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
1987 Ford Thunderbird
1986 Ford Taurus LX
1985 Volkswagen GTI
1984 Chevrolet Corvette
1983 American Motors Renault Alliance
1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1981 Chrysler K-cars, Dodge Aries/Plymouth Reliant
1980 Chevrolet Citation
1979 Buick Riviera S
1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon
1977 Chevrolet Caprice
1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen/Plymouth Volare
1975 Chevrolet Monza 2+2 V-8
1974 Ford Mustang II
1973 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1972 Citroen SM
1971 Chevrolet Vega
1970 Ford Torino
1969 Plymouth Road Runner
1968 Pontiac GTO
1967 Mercury Cougar
Please!!!!
2006 Honda Civic
2005 Chrysler 300
2004 Toyota Prius
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe / Sedan
2002 Ford Thunderbird
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
2000 Lincoln LS
1999 Chrysler 300M
1998 Chevrolet Corvette
1997 Chevrolet Malibu
1996 Dodge Caravan
1995 Chrysler Cirrus
1994 Ford Mustang
1993 Ford Probe GT
1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
1990 Lincoln Town Car
1989 Ford Thunderbird SC
1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
1987 Ford Thunderbird
1986 Ford Taurus LX
1985 Volkswagen GTI
1984 Chevrolet Corvette
1983 American Motors Renault Alliance
1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1981 Chrysler K-cars, Dodge Aries/Plymouth Reliant
1980 Chevrolet Citation
1979 Buick Riviera S
1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon
1977 Chevrolet Caprice
1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen/Plymouth Volare
1975 Chevrolet Monza 2+2 V-8
1974 Ford Mustang II
1973 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1972 Citroen SM
1971 Chevrolet Vega
1970 Ford Torino
1969 Plymouth Road Runner
1968 Pontiac GTO
1967 Mercury Cougar
Please!!!!
09-07-2006, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tocho1
Motor Trend Car of the Year Complete Winners List
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
1997 Chevrolet Malibu
1990 Lincoln Town Car
1986 Ford Taurus LX
1981 Chrysler K-cars, Dodge Aries/Plymouth Reliant
1980 Chevrolet Citation
1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
1997 Chevrolet Malibu
1990 Lincoln Town Car
1986 Ford Taurus LX
1981 Chrysler K-cars, Dodge Aries/Plymouth Reliant
1980 Chevrolet Citation
1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon
09-07-2006, 01:07 AM
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The cars on that list aren't all crap. My '85 GTI was amazing, it handled like it was on rails, and the Roadrunner on the list was fast as ****, enough to scare you, granted, it didn't handle worth a damn, but holy crap did it go...