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Old 08-09-2006, 11:39 PM
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I had my 2nd high performance event, and this time it was on the track at Pacific Raceways (http://www.pacificraceways.com/ & http://www.pacificraceways.com/info/facmap.cfm) in Kent, WA.

It was the ProFormance Racing School's Advanced Driving Course taught by Don Kitch (http://www.teamseattle.com/).

I now understand C4sSurgeon's name - the C4s on the track is a surgical instrument. I tried to push the car all day and it simply laughed at me. No squat (had PASM Sport Mode on) and it was just on rails. No understeer problems - nothing. Just high speed driving on what felt like rails, and it actually made me look like I knew what I was doing and have been doing this for years!

Here's just a brief 17 second video of the last two turns on the track:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...741&pr=goog-sl

and I've attached a couple of pics - including one of a fellow Rennlister (the speed yellow C2s).

My PS2's performed very well too. I was quite pleased.

Oh, and did I mention that the brakes and steering on this car were created by Christ Almighty? I'm telling you, they have to be for as awesome as they were out there today!
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Oh, and the red A3 you see at the beginning of the video? I caught him at the end of that straight, but his instructor wouldn't give me the green light to pass him until after turn 3b (see the track link above).
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Fun huh?

This is what it's all about.
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Hey Chris, I just connected to the link in your sig, and it brought tears to my eyes (My 1st 4 years were in Vancouver, and then grew up in Montreal, studied at McGill, Queen's, Western Ontario and spent my last 4 years in Winnipeg (Univ of Manitoba) before moving to the South. I am proud to be Canadian .
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Originally Posted by Deven
Hey Chris, I just connected to the link in your sig, and it brought tears to my eyes (My 1st 4 years were in Vancouver, and then grew up in Montreal, studied at McGill, Queen's, Western Ontario and spent my last 4 years in Winnipeg (Univ of Manitoba) before moving to the South. I am proud to be Canadian .
Right on. Yes the beer's better up here.

You seem to have done the school tour. How did you end up down south?

I too am proud to be Canadian. It's a good place to live, a bit socialist but nowhere else I'd want to be.
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Opportunity is endless in the US. It was easier to move to the South than to move laterally across Canada (my wife and I are both physicians). Funny that we ended up in the most extreme of places (my wife grew up in Winnipeg, one of the coldest cites in the world, to Phoenix, one of the hottest places). I love Canada and whilst living in Canada I could fanthom no better place to live, but after living in the states for 10 years (6 in Rhode Island and 4 in Arizona) I cannot go back, this place is almost paradise (150 000 people move to Phoenix every year).
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I would agree with you on the unlimited opportunity and the barriers to moving and practicing medicine from one province to another. Stupid rules make people like yourself head south after you have been fully trained. Seems stupid to me that these barriers exist at all since Canada should be trying to keep all the doctors we have trained in gov. subsidized medical schools. Gov will never see your tax dollars. I think I'm too logical to go into politics.

AZ is too hot for me though. I was in Vegas last June and it was too dry . . . to hot . . . but I do agree that the cold sucks.

On the other hand it is still a special place on the earth when I can travel less than 1 hour by car from Ottawa and spend a sunny Monday afternoon anchored in the 1000 Islands between 3 islands, swimming, floating in the current or doing absolutely nothing at all . . .
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Sorry to hijack the thread . . . back to normally scheduled programming . . .
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Originally Posted by ronmart
I had my 2nd high performance event, and this time it was on the track at Pacific Raceways (http://www.pacificraceways.com/ & http://www.pacificraceways.com/info/facmap.cfm) in Kent, WA.

It was the ProFormance Racing School's Advanced Driving Course taught by Don Kitch (http://www.teamseattle.com/).

I now understand C4sSurgeon's name - the C4s on the track is a surgical instrument. I tried to push the car all day and it simply laughed at me. No squat (had PASM Sport Mode on) and it was just on rails. No understeer problems - nothing. Just high speed driving on what felt like rails, and it actually made me look like I knew what I was doing and have been doing this for years!

Here's just a brief 17 second video of the last two turns on the track:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...741&pr=goog-sl

and I've attached a couple of pics - including one of a fellow Rennlister (the speed yellow C2s).

My PS2's performed very well too. I was quite pleased.

Oh, and did I mention that the brakes and steering on this car were created by Christ Almighty? I'm telling you, they have to be for as awesome as they were out there today!
Thanks ronmart for posting a pic of my car!

Did you try running with PASM Sport mode off? Where on the track did you feel like Sport mode helped you most? I was running with it off all day, but I will definitely experiment with it the next time I'm at the track at the end of the month.

I was also extremely impressed with the steering and brakes in my C2S on the track. Just perfect.

I highly recommend ProFormance's events. Don and his crew are top notch.
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Originally Posted by avdiscolo
Thanks ronmart for posting a pic of my car!

Did you try running with PASM Sport mode off? Where on the track did you feel like Sport mode helped you most? I was running with it off all day, but I will definitely experiment with it the next time I'm at the track at the end of the month.

I was also extremely impressed with the steering and brakes in my C2S on the track. Just perfect.

I highly recommend ProFormance's events. Don and his crew are top notch.
My first hot laps were with PASM off. When i went out the next time I turned it on and it virtually eliminated body roll and squatting. It really kept the car much more balanced on hard braking and when I was trottle down at 115+ in turn 1.

That reminds me, for turn one whatever speed you are carrying in the straight isn't enough for turn one. You actually want to give it a little more throttle on turn in so your back end puts a tad bit more weight on the rear. It feels so much more planted that way.

These are truly amazing machines!
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Any fear in driving a 'cab'. Initially I had no fear/thoughts, but recently with all the hoopla with the GT3 getting a sun roof, all of a sudden I am thinking, if they think a sunroof is bad, then a cab can only be worse?
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Originally Posted by Deven
Any fear in driving a 'cab'. Initially I had no fear/thoughts, but recently with all the hoopla with the GT3 getting a sun roof, all of a sudden I am thinking, if they think a sunroof is bad, then a cab can only be worse?
The track requires you to have a rollbar of some sort. In our case, we have two that deploy if the wheels lose contact with the ground (so no catching air), so no modifications are required.

There's absolutely no reason to fear taking a cab out to the track. People take the Lotus Elise, Catherham 7, Westfield, Miata's, and Boxsters out to the track all of the time.

I experienced ZERO stability issues and no cowl shake or flex. The car was rock solid, and this track changes elevation as you can see if you hover over the turn numbers here:

http://www.pacificraceways.com/road/roadcourse.cfm

Until you are turning laps on this 2.25 mile road course that are under 1:50, you aren't even going to be stressing the car any worse than you would driving out on the freeway.

I didn't measure my own time, but I did time avdiscolo on one of his laps and it was roughly 2:07 with traffic. If I were guessing, the best we both probably pulled off yesterday was the 1:55 range which would be a perfect lap and doing 125 mph down the straight.



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