Picking up my 997 C4S Cab today
07-19-2006 | 08:27 AM
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Picking up my 997 C4S Cab today
Looking forward to picking up the car - my last three fun cars have been Ferraris (550/575/360) - looking forward to getting back to a car that can be used without fuss again.
Basalt Black Metallic with black leather and silver stitching - obviously a manual
Got some nice options...
XCZ - Sports Shortshift
XRR - 19" Carrera Sport Wheels
446 - Coloured Wheel Centres
670 - Navigation Module
666 - Telephone Module
680 - BOSE
635 - Rear Park Assist
XSC - Porsche Crests On Seats
P15 - Electric Front Seats with Memory
454 - Cruise Control
692 - CD Autochanger
342 - Heated Seats
XLF - Sports Exhaust System
XX1 - Front Floor Mats Porsche Logo
802 - Carbon Small Package
EAD - Carbon Switch Package
P12 - Self Dimming Mirror
XSX - Seat Belts Guards Red
XFG - Instrument Dials in Guards Red
Also go Painted Wheels (GT Silver) and VTS Tracking System
I'm sure you've all seen a black/black car before, but if you would like pictures, let me know.
Regards,
LWR
Basalt Black Metallic with black leather and silver stitching - obviously a manual
Got some nice options...
XCZ - Sports Shortshift
XRR - 19" Carrera Sport Wheels
446 - Coloured Wheel Centres
670 - Navigation Module
666 - Telephone Module
680 - BOSE
635 - Rear Park Assist
XSC - Porsche Crests On Seats
P15 - Electric Front Seats with Memory
454 - Cruise Control
692 - CD Autochanger
342 - Heated Seats
XLF - Sports Exhaust System
XX1 - Front Floor Mats Porsche Logo
802 - Carbon Small Package
EAD - Carbon Switch Package
P12 - Self Dimming Mirror
XSX - Seat Belts Guards Red
XFG - Instrument Dials in Guards Red
Also go Painted Wheels (GT Silver) and VTS Tracking System
I'm sure you've all seen a black/black car before, but if you would like pictures, let me know.
Regards,
LWR
Last edited by LWR; 07-19-2006 at 10:13 AM.
07-19-2006 | 11:51 AM
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Definitely - I've gotta see that interior - it sounds like it'll rock!
I'd also love to hear your review of it as compared to the Ferrari's after you've had it for a while. I'm a Ferrari owner wannabe, so I like to hear out on what I'm missing.
I'd also love to hear your review of it as compared to the Ferrari's after you've had it for a while. I'm a Ferrari owner wannabe, so I like to hear out on what I'm missing.
07-19-2006 | 02:41 PM
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I have been able to take extensive rides, but not drive, in (2) Ferrari...A 360 and a F50...both owned by the same person...I am interested to see what you think after you drive your 911 for 5,000 or so miles...
The F50 was incredible...unlike anything I have ever experienced in a road car...To be honest, I really did not want one after the ride and it does not stem from the fact that I cannot purchase one..I really wanted the Carrera GT I drove last year...Al most every Ferrari still seems to have a slight beverly hills dentist with Chrome wheels persona about them...I just could not see myself using/living with a Ferrari on a daily basis...by the way I do not dislike dentists.
Your car looks to be a great ride...
The F50 was incredible...unlike anything I have ever experienced in a road car...To be honest, I really did not want one after the ride and it does not stem from the fact that I cannot purchase one..I really wanted the Carrera GT I drove last year...Al most every Ferrari still seems to have a slight beverly hills dentist with Chrome wheels persona about them...I just could not see myself using/living with a Ferrari on a daily basis...by the way I do not dislike dentists.
Your car looks to be a great ride...
07-19-2006 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ronmart
Definitely - I've gotta see that interior - it sounds like it'll rock!
I'd also love to hear your review of it as compared to the Ferrari's after you've had it for a while. I'm a Ferrari owner wannabe, so I like to hear out on what I'm missing.
I'd also love to hear your review of it as compared to the Ferrari's after you've had it for a while. I'm a Ferrari owner wannabe, so I like to hear out on what I'm missing.
As to a comparison with Ferraris - I can answer that immediately...
I live in the UK and mainly drive around the Southeast of England and London. In a PERFECT world, the Ferraris I have owned have been better than a 997. A car that revs to 10,000 and shrieks like a banshee is always going to be fun.
HOWEVER, when you add the real word - which for me at least - has rain, sleet, snow, ice, speed bumps, parking garage ramps, narrow parking spaces... etc, the Porsche is the more usable proprosition. With a Ferrari, you have to know where you are going, where you are going to park (can you get in?) etc. Also, none of the cars I have driven can be used to anywhere near their potential in the wet - maybe my driving ability, but I am as confident making progress in a Porsche in the wet as I am in the dry.
The market for Ferraris is different to Porsche. There are huge sensitivities to mileage - to the point that it is very easy to get trapped in a place where you won't use the car unless you can really enjoy the miles - which for many Ferrari owners rules out anything other than clear roads and dry weather - certainly in the UK that can be hard to predict. I know a lot of people who watch the weather more closely than a private pilot and get up at 6am at weekends to drive their cars!
I can't speak for the US (although lived in LA and NY for total of 5 yrs), but in the UK, the dealer support while excellent from a customer service point of view is very much geared toward supporting garage queens. The car has a service interval of 1yr or 6,000 miles (compare that to modern Porsches) and there is a generally accepted view that nobody is in a real rush to get their car serviced. I have owned a Ferrari since 2000, I reckon each service visit has taken a 10-14 days.
For a real world car, I can extract so much more use and value out of a 997. Sure, there are moments of magic that a Ferrari can produce that a 997 is not capable of - the rest of the time the cars due to the realities and market perceptions above are just not as much fun as a 997.
Oh, and my wife much prefers Porsche - she finds the Ferraris we have owned to be way too ostentatious.
I'll let you know how I get on in the next few weeks
LWR
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07-19-2006 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LWR
I'm glad you spotted the interior options ... lifts the car IMHO - I WILL post pics
As to a comparison with Ferraris - I can answer that immediately...
I live in the UK and mainly drive around the Southeast of England and London. In a PERFECT world, the Ferraris I have owned have been better than a 997. A car that revs to 10,000 and shrieks like a banshee is always going to be fun.
HOWEVER, when you add the real word - which for me at least - has rain, sleet, snow, ice, speed bumps, parking garage ramps, narrow parking spaces... etc, the Porsche is the more usable proprosition. With a Ferrari, you have to know where you are going, where you are going to park (can you get in?) etc. Also, none of the cars I have driven can be used to anywhere near their potential in the wet - maybe my driving ability, but I am as confident making progress in a Porsche in the wet as I am in the dry.
The market for Ferraris is different to Porsche. There are huge sensitivities to mileage - to the point that it is very easy to get trapped in a place where you won't use the car unless you can really enjoy the miles - which for many Ferrari owners rules out anything other than clear roads and dry weather - certainly in the UK that can be hard to predict. I know a lot of people who watch the weather more closely than a private pilot and get up at 6am at weekends to drive their cars!
I can't speak for the US (although lived in LA and NY for total of 5 yrs), but in the UK, the dealer support while excellent from a customer service point of view is very much geared toward supporting garage queens. The car has a service interval of 1yr or 6,000 miles (compare that to modern Porsches) and there is a generally accepted view that nobody is in a real rush to get their car serviced. I have owned a Ferrari since 2000, I reckon each service visit has taken a 10-14 days.
For a real world car, I can extract so much more use and value out of a 997. Sure, there are moments of magic that a Ferrari can produce that a 997 is not capable of - the rest of the time the cars due to the realities and market perceptions above are just not as much fun as a 997.
Oh, and my wife much prefers Porsche - she finds the Ferraris we have owned to be way too ostentatious.
I'll let you know how I get on in the next few weeks
LWR
As to a comparison with Ferraris - I can answer that immediately...
I live in the UK and mainly drive around the Southeast of England and London. In a PERFECT world, the Ferraris I have owned have been better than a 997. A car that revs to 10,000 and shrieks like a banshee is always going to be fun.
HOWEVER, when you add the real word - which for me at least - has rain, sleet, snow, ice, speed bumps, parking garage ramps, narrow parking spaces... etc, the Porsche is the more usable proprosition. With a Ferrari, you have to know where you are going, where you are going to park (can you get in?) etc. Also, none of the cars I have driven can be used to anywhere near their potential in the wet - maybe my driving ability, but I am as confident making progress in a Porsche in the wet as I am in the dry.
The market for Ferraris is different to Porsche. There are huge sensitivities to mileage - to the point that it is very easy to get trapped in a place where you won't use the car unless you can really enjoy the miles - which for many Ferrari owners rules out anything other than clear roads and dry weather - certainly in the UK that can be hard to predict. I know a lot of people who watch the weather more closely than a private pilot and get up at 6am at weekends to drive their cars!
I can't speak for the US (although lived in LA and NY for total of 5 yrs), but in the UK, the dealer support while excellent from a customer service point of view is very much geared toward supporting garage queens. The car has a service interval of 1yr or 6,000 miles (compare that to modern Porsches) and there is a generally accepted view that nobody is in a real rush to get their car serviced. I have owned a Ferrari since 2000, I reckon each service visit has taken a 10-14 days.
For a real world car, I can extract so much more use and value out of a 997. Sure, there are moments of magic that a Ferrari can produce that a 997 is not capable of - the rest of the time the cars due to the realities and market perceptions above are just not as much fun as a 997.
Oh, and my wife much prefers Porsche - she finds the Ferraris we have owned to be way too ostentatious.
I'll let you know how I get on in the next few weeks
LWR
Thanks for the write up. I enjoy hearing what it is really like to own a Ferrari, and it helps remind me that I'm probably doing the right thing by owning a 997.
