Are you going to make me hack the CD player in the trunk?
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Adam, assuming there are only two channels (L & R) as outputs from the CD player (quadraphonic or surround system signals not available as outputs) there could be two pairs coming out the box and not just 3 wires as you're surmising. If you do find them, you need to know what the typical output is of a CD player in terms of peak-to-peak voltage, if you plan on tapping in at this point with another device. But before you do, it is critical to know what the max. output of your device is in the same apples-to-apples terms (Vp-p or Vrms). You will do serious damage to your preamp, obviously, if you're feeding in more power into this tapped line than it was designed to handle.
Another important thing to consider is that whatever switch you use to toggle back and forth between sources while your radio is in CD mode (it obviouslly won't know the difference) should be something less conspicuous than your basic toggle switch - maybe a little black push button. Ideally it would be nice to find an auxiliary input and set your radio to "AUX".
Another important thing to consider is that whatever switch you use to toggle back and forth between sources while your radio is in CD mode (it obviouslly won't know the difference) should be something less conspicuous than your basic toggle switch - maybe a little black push button. Ideally it would be nice to find an auxiliary input and set your radio to "AUX".
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Originally Posted by 1080iAddict
If audio and data are tied into MOST, I am dead in water..
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jcnesq....did you specifically ask for the MOST adaptor for a 997? Or are they saying the Cayenne will be ready in a month? If this is true, I will wait impatiently.
For those who would like some more info:
http://www.mostcooperation.com/
I've had an iPod running over MOST for the past 2 years in my Porsche....but I'm special
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I called Dension and supposedly they will be ready to "test" on a Carrera in about 3 weeks. It wasn't real clear whether they are closer on Cayenne than 911 or whether it will / should work on both. I half volunteered to let them test on me (they are local) but actually that makes me nervous and I was mainly interested in having them call me back so I know what's going on.
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Originally Posted by ltc
...I've had an iPod running over MOST for the past 2 years in my Porsche....but I'm special
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1080i Addict: I installed a Dension IceLink in my 993 (after first upgrading the Radio/CD from a CDR-210 to a CDR-220), and wired it to have the iPod in my center console. The iPod can be controlled thru the CDR-220. While it isn't perfect, one can forward, reverse and repeat tracks, as well as turn it on or off. (interestingly, this is all one can do with the iPod Remote.) I don't understand the reluctance to install the FM Modulator, as it is not a whole lot more hassle than the Dension. Granted, one simply unplugs the CD changer and plugs in the Dension to get it to work, but there still is the issue of wiring to the storage location for the iPod. The FM Modulator approach is only slightly more troublesome. See http://gallery.rennlist.com/cayennegallery/album01 ... or am I missing something. I am familiar with the audiphile issues of the FM Modulator, but it shouldn't be confused with the FM transmitter approach (as per Griffin Tech, Belkin, etc.)
Also: Can you easily (dumb-down level) explain why a Sony Plasma HDTV optical output wouldn't be recognized by a Yamaha YSP-1000? As it turns out, a workaround to control the YSP-1000 is to use the digital out from the cable box into the YSP and then use a Harmony Remote. But, I don't understand why the TV optical out fails. Any help would be appreciated.
Also: Can you easily (dumb-down level) explain why a Sony Plasma HDTV optical output wouldn't be recognized by a Yamaha YSP-1000? As it turns out, a workaround to control the YSP-1000 is to use the digital out from the cable box into the YSP and then use a Harmony Remote. But, I don't understand why the TV optical out fails. Any help would be appreciated.
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well was at future shop (best buy) today, out of coincidence, and looked at the iPod to deck adapters. There's a brand that makes them for different brands of cars, different aftermarket head units, and then just general like 'asian' and 'european'
worth looking into
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...gon=&langid=EN
So that's the basic idea, it's coming out the front for visual purposes. Thing is you'll pay close to $200 usd.
worth looking into
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...gon=&langid=EN
So that's the basic idea, it's coming out the front for visual purposes. Thing is you'll pay close to $200 usd.
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Originally Posted by ltc
Since you are dead in the water, would you like a viking funeral?
I've had an iPod running over MOST for the past 2 years in my Porsche....but I'm special
I've had an iPod running over MOST for the past 2 years in my Porsche....but I'm special
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Originally Posted by JFScheck
Just got back from Toronto and was looking at this thread - just waiting to come across your response...
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Originally Posted by OCBen
I'm no electrical engineer but the output from the CD changer/reader gets fed into the pre-amp where it's conditioned tonally before being fed to the power amp, right?...
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The output from the power amp driving the speakers is analog, right? ...
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And the input to the pre-amp is analog, right? ...
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So the CD reader that reads the digital signal off the CD and does multiple sampling to minimize reading error, doesn't it have a built-in integrator that converts the digital to analog, thus making the output of the CD reader an analog signal?...
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But you say there are no analog twisted pairs, right? ... Hmmmm....
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Sounds like you could use some wiring diagrams...
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Originally Posted by 1080iAddict
Do you know for a fact there is a separate pre-amp and power amp? .
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Do you know where they are located? .
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If that CD player has an analog output to a pre amp this project research is completed. That would be perfect. I need to check. I thought its all digital..
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Now, if it is digital, it depends whether there is a separate audio feed of pure audio digital - or - whether MOST data such as metafile information and CD status it digitized into that digital music feed. .
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IF it is not analog,..
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but pure digital without the data stream, a DA (digital to analog) converter might be used to convert the ipod to digital and then use an AB switch..
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I am going to remove the CD player if I can do it easily and then start poking around.
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Originally Posted by OCBen
As for what is what, I do know for a fact (as every audiophile or student of physics knows) that the drivers (or speakers) are driven by sinusoidal signals (analog), .
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Now the preamp (which colors the audio signals with tonal qualities - more treble, less bass) may or may not be a separate unit physically,.
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but it is a separate unit electronically, and may even be on the same circuit board. .
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Perhaps there is an audio or electronic engineer here who can chime in and clarify for us.
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Originally Posted by phantomias33
I don't know if I'm volunteering information he would rather I didn't, but I think one of your best resources for this would be 'ltc' or Lewis.
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Originally Posted by jcnesq
It wasn't real clear whether they are closer on Cayenne than 911 or whether it will / should work on both.