Tell me about the factory paint proccess
01-08-2006, 05:13 PM
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State Lemon laws do not apply to this scenerio. Staqte lemon laws address repetitive repairs or repairs where the car is out of commission in excess of thirty days within the determination period of time. The paint sityuation is simply a failure to disclose prior damage or repaint. It falls under tort law, contract law, and possibly under the Unfair Trade Practices Act (UFTA) or equivalent consumer protection legislation. If it falls under the UFTA equivalent, in general, there are provisions for treble damages and attorneys fees. This is a great motivator for a dealer and manufacturer to get the issue resolved.
01-10-2006, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gota911
I am not a paint expert, and don't claim to be, but I recall reading some posts on the 996 forum regarding getting the bumper cover repainted due to having stone chips. Many of them stated that the new clear coat was not as durable as the factory clear coat.
Having said that, I wouldn't accept a new car at a new car price with NON factory paint. If they won't give you a new car, they should refund a large portion of the purchase price.
01-10-2006, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rmklaw
At the risk of being repetitive. If you purchased a new car without knowledge that it had previous damage or had been or needed repaint, not only you do not have to take it but you are entitled to your money back and cancellation of contract. Anything else is unacceptable.
In addition you may have additional remedies against the dealer and Porsche. Talk to a commercial litigation attorney. If you PM me, I will discuss with you your legal rights in private.
In addition you may have additional remedies against the dealer and Porsche. Talk to a commercial litigation attorney. If you PM me, I will discuss with you your legal rights in private.
WTFITPODIA?
01-10-2006, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by OCBen
Okay Johnny, WTF does WTFITPODIA mean anyway? 
Distilled champagne made me do it.
01-10-2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OCBen
Distilled champagne??? 
I was starting to decipher it and was coming up this interpretation:
WTF Is The Problem ... Or Dare I Ask?
I was starting to decipher it and was coming up this interpretation:
WTF Is The Problem ... Or Dare I Ask?
Didn't buy the "piano chord style" bang story? Oh well.
01-10-2006, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rmklaw
I would not advise you to accept a repaint (don't take this as legal advice). Keep in mind that under the law, you will have to disclose to any subsequent buyer that the car was damaged and had a field repaint. That clearly affects marketability.
To determine the diminution of value, you will need to take a point in time where you would establish as the selling point and obtain a dimminution of value report. If you search the Internet, there are many appraisal/adjuster services available. In that price range you could be looking at $20,000 hit. As examples in a couple of cases we are handling, a Mercedes CLK 2004 is taking a $10,000-$12,000 hit even after restoring with full replacement (no repairs) to factory new from a rear ender.
The big issue is your legal duty to disclose to subsequent buyers. If it was my car, I would not accept it. Good luck.
To determine the diminution of value, you will need to take a point in time where you would establish as the selling point and obtain a dimminution of value report. If you search the Internet, there are many appraisal/adjuster services available. In that price range you could be looking at $20,000 hit. As examples in a couple of cases we are handling, a Mercedes CLK 2004 is taking a $10,000-$12,000 hit even after restoring with full replacement (no repairs) to factory new from a rear ender.
The big issue is your legal duty to disclose to subsequent buyers. If it was my car, I would not accept it. Good luck.
01-10-2006, 11:28 PM
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ask them for a 15k refund on top of the showroom repaint. I'd take that. Move on and enjoy the car. It is better than paying the lawyers.
When you sell it, everything has a price and everyone has a budget. Knock off 15k and you can unload it in a hurry.
When you sell it, everything has a price and everyone has a budget. Knock off 15k and you can unload it in a hurry.
