996TT vs. 997S?
#16
I have a new 997S and enjoyed my 996 turbo for 3 years before this car. It was an easy decision for me once I drove the 997S. The new car is more comfortable, sounds better, lighter, quicker handling, adjustable suspension, nicer interior, smoother riding over different types of roads, better looking in my opinion, better brakes (pccb), ergonomics, etc. The 996 turbo was faster, especially after 4,000rpm. If speed or dry sump or... is that important, the 996 is also a great car and it will have already taken the depreciation hit. For all the other reasons, I chose the 997S. In my town, the roads are poor and there are so many cops, it's hard to really enjoy the extra power of the turbo. Good luck in your choice.
#17
Originally Posted by Wachuko
Oh boy... here we go again.
Short answer: No. Marketing hype to describe a wet sump... Search the forum on this... lots of info here and in the 996 forum...
Flame suit on...
Short answer: No. Marketing hype to describe a wet sump... Search the forum on this... lots of info here and in the 996 forum...
Flame suit on...
Michael
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Originally Posted by Kevin Keating
I have a new 997S and enjoyed my 996 turbo for 3 years before this car. It was an easy decision for me once I drove the 997S. The new car is more comfortable, sounds better, lighter, quicker handling, adjustable suspension, nicer interior, smoother riding over different types of roads, better looking in my opinion, better brakes (pccb), ergonomics, etc. The 996 turbo was faster, especially after 4,000rpm. If speed or dry sump or... is that important, the 996 is also a great car and it will have already taken the depreciation hit. For all the other reasons, I chose the 997S. In my town, the roads are poor and there are so many cops, it's hard to really enjoy the extra power of the turbo. Good luck in your choice.
The 997 is actually not a light car. Is it not heavier than the 996C2? C'mon, the 996TT hits huge amounts of torque at around 2,700 RPMs. I have owned 3 996 TT and my current heavy as heck 996TT cabriolet hits rush zone at around 2,500 to 2,700 RPMs or right after you hit the gas pedal.
As much as I regret trading my 03 TT coupe for my 04 TT cabriolet, I was not even remotely tempted to trade my TT cabriolet for the 997S to tide me over until my 997TT gets here. I am very excited about the 997TT. That car better be one awesome ride. If not, Porsche is in trouble because the competition at $ 150,000 is just overwhelming right now.
#19
kind of changing subjects a little but what happened to the $ 117k Turbos? I remember test driving a seal gray 996TT 3 years ago ( Non S) and it was a base car with no options at $117k, now you can only get the S and they are all $ 140k plus; IMO at $80 to $90k the 997S seems like a great deal when compared to a $ 140k 996TTS. does anyone know what the base 997TT is going to start at?
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From: Destin, Nashville, In a 458 Challenge
Originally Posted by fluid15
I haven't seen anything about pricing, but I read it'd be the first Turbo offered wit 500+ hp.
My 2004 TT cabriolet was $ 140k, but it had about $ 12,000 in options. Isn't base car still around $ 125k range. Is coupe less than cabriolet.
500 hp is about what it is going to take to make it a competitive option in this price range. Both of my 996TT coupes were 500 hp or more. Once you hit 500 hp, you basically need new gearing becasue first gear is just a flash. You basically cannot keep it out of red line if you floor it because you cannot shift fast enough. Just make it 600 hp and take first gear up to 60. That would make some good publishing numbers.
#22
Originally Posted by Doug H
500 hp is about what it is going to take to make it a competitive option in this price range. Both of my 996TT coupes were 500 hp or more. Once you hit 500 hp, you basically need new gearing becasue first gear is just a flash. You basically cannot keep it out of red line if you floor it because you cannot shift fast enough. Just make it 600 hp and take first gear up to 60. That would make some good publishing numbers.
Michael
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From: Destin, Nashville, In a 458 Challenge
Well, it looks like 997TT is not breaking 500 hp unless you go with X50 package. I would say the first gear 0 - 60 may be out of the question. That definitely boost the 0 - 60 time when taking a shift out of the equation if you have enough hp and torque to make gears taller through out the whole range of gears.