RMS leak on 997!
12-27-2004, 10:28 AM
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I didn't know that RMS leak was recurrent for many 996 cars.
Thanks OH997, I know understand that this is more than a problematic for some of our forum members. In that case, I truly hope Porsche engineers find a definite solution to that oil leak from RMS.
Thanks OH997, I know understand that this is more than a problematic for some of our forum members. In that case, I truly hope Porsche engineers find a definite solution to that oil leak from RMS.
12-27-2004, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tool Pants
There are many places for oil to leak from in any engine. I consider the 997S RMS report a rumor until I get a VIN for the car and have someone I know check the computer for the warranty work done on that car.
12-27-2004, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tool Pants
After over 5 years of Boxstering I have not found the service advisors who have come and gone at my local dealership to be a very reliable source of technical information.
12-27-2004, 05:34 PM
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I bet alot of people who are purchasing pre-owned 996s that are now out of warranty, and are getting stuck with paying for these repairs themselves, are fuming.
12-27-2004, 05:51 PM
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I bet alot of people who are purchasing pre-owned 996s that are now out of warranty, and are getting stuck with paying for these repairs themselves, are fuming.
12-27-2004, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by C4S Surgeon
Yeah, it was me, that's what the service manager told me about a 997S that was having an oil leak problem.
12-27-2004, 09:13 PM
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Engine could easily be over filled with oil, too.
It is always a possibility that the engine has too much oil in it. Mine did. I have yet to pick up a new car with even the correct air pressure in the tires, I mean how hard can it be as the proper pressures are on every door frame sticker, but this was the first time that I've seen too much oil.
To test my hunch I let the fill gauge drop to the two-thirds mark and I kept it there by adding only enough to keep it there... still in the safe zone but below maximum. First and last noticed it when I brought it home to when the level dropped at about 700 miles, now at 3300 miles and I haven't seen it since. Who knows how accurate that electronic guage really is?
By the way, this is my first 911, and, well, WOW! I'm hooked.
To test my hunch I let the fill gauge drop to the two-thirds mark and I kept it there by adding only enough to keep it there... still in the safe zone but below maximum. First and last noticed it when I brought it home to when the level dropped at about 700 miles, now at 3300 miles and I haven't seen it since. Who knows how accurate that electronic guage really is?
By the way, this is my first 911, and, well, WOW! I'm hooked.
12-27-2004, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ben in lj
C4S Surgeon stated it was a service "manager" not "advisor". I would think there'd be a big difference there, no?
12-27-2004, 11:51 PM
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Where is the RMS leak?
Originally Posted by PTEC
Its too early to tell if the 997 will suffer from the issues the 996 had with rear main leaks, but I can tell you for sure, at least one 997 has had it replaced so far.
12-28-2004, 01:13 AM
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First off, I'm not going to mention his name, but he's the guy who takes in your car, seems to be the one in charge. I don't know/care what his exact title is either. He just mentioned it(RMS leak) to me in passing, and I foolishly passed it along. I brought it up to him a few days later and he said it was fixed, I didn't persue it any farther, nor will I.
Take it for what it is, hearsay on line. Believe it, don't believe it, whatever.
Tool pants, I have a lot of respect for you, but I'm not going to go prying any more than I already have and publicize some dudes VIN! Comon' Man!
Take it for what it is, hearsay on line. Believe it, don't believe it, whatever.
Tool pants, I have a lot of respect for you, but I'm not going to go prying any more than I already have and publicize some dudes VIN! Comon' Man!
12-28-2004, 06:22 AM
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See guys, enough already about the RMS. I parked my 997s in garage, where my wife has parked 3 Mercedes Benzs over the last 7 years, without a drop of oil. She angerly called that afternoon to tell me about the 3 drops of oil that the Porsche had left that morning. I told her that it was terrible about the floor, and that the Porsche broke down on the way to work. When the dealer finally looked at it, (5 days later) they told me that the engine was blown at 4159 miles (defective intermediate shaft).
A couple of drops of oil and everyone's crowing RMS; my 997s is proof that a few drops of oil is not the RMS. May the good name of Porsche, now be restored.
jb
A couple of drops of oil and everyone's crowing RMS; my 997s is proof that a few drops of oil is not the RMS. May the good name of Porsche, now be restored.
jb
12-28-2004, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jboyko
See guys, enough already about the RMS. I parked my 997s in garage, where my wife has parked 3 Mercedes Benzs over the last 7 years, without a drop of oil. She angerly called that afternoon to tell me about the 3 drops of oil that the Porsche had left that morning. I told her that it was terrible about the floor, and that the Porsche broke down on the way to work. When the dealer finally looked at it, (5 days later) they told me that the engine was blown at 4159 miles (defective intermediate shaft).
A couple of drops of oil and everyone's crowing RMS; my 997s is proof that a few drops of oil is not the RMS. May the good name of Porsche, now be restored.
jb
A couple of drops of oil and everyone's crowing RMS; my 997s is proof that a few drops of oil is not the RMS. May the good name of Porsche, now be restored.
jb
At least they got it fixed for you right away, right?
12-28-2004, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by C4S Surgeon
RMS, Rear Main Seal. A small number of 996 cars with the m96 motor (3.4,3.6 &3.8L) have developed a chonic oil leak at the RMS, thought to be due to overly loose tolerences on the machined main block. This is a problem not seen in GT1 engines (GT3, GT2, Turbo 3.6 engines) due to different, more precise machining methods employed in the hand built construction of those motors.
Typically, the dealer will RR the RMS up to three times, if it occurs again a rebuilt motor is in order.
This is a very rare problem, but a real one. The bulk of m96 motors have never and will never experience this problem. Even if it happened out of warranty, it's only a 800$ fix.
The problem is inherent to the m96 motor, which includes the 'new' 3.8L 997S motor. They did attempt a fix by using a Cayenne style RMS, only time will tell. Drive your car and enjoy it.
Typically, the dealer will RR the RMS up to three times, if it occurs again a rebuilt motor is in order.
This is a very rare problem, but a real one. The bulk of m96 motors have never and will never experience this problem. Even if it happened out of warranty, it's only a 800$ fix.
The problem is inherent to the m96 motor, which includes the 'new' 3.8L 997S motor. They did attempt a fix by using a Cayenne style RMS, only time will tell. Drive your car and enjoy it.
Regarding the RMS been a "rare" occurence, I think a search on this board alone comparing the users and the amount of users that had the problem, the percentage is not so small. Dont forget that the majority of Porsche owners are not Rennlist members so you cannot compare the total number produced with the amount of RMS problems reported on this board to get the accurate picture. if you had Porsche data regarding the total RMS leaks/blowen engines etc then the comparison has a meaning. For example I know of an engine blow up which happened in front of my eyes and that person is not a Rennlister.
Please dont take this the wrong way.