Claying - I was wrong! Almost....
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From: Seattle, WA
I love using the clay bar. You can make it even easier by incorporating it into your wash (depending on your paint condition).
I just tried Iron Remover today, which is like a clay bar substitute and it’s great. If you haven’t tried that approach, I’d recommend it before your next detail.
I just tried Iron Remover today, which is like a clay bar substitute and it’s great. If you haven’t tried that approach, I’d recommend it before your next detail.
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Originally Posted by GTank
I love using the clay bar. You can make it even easier by incorporating it into your wash (depending on your paint condition).
I just tried Iron Remover today, which is like a clay bar substitute and it’s great. If you haven’t tried that approach, I’d recommend it before your next detail.
I just tried Iron Remover today, which is like a clay bar substitute and it’s great. If you haven’t tried that approach, I’d recommend it before your next detail.
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Bruce, I love you, man, but if you scratched your car using clay, thats user error, not a fault of the product.
Clay isn't at all like compound. Compound grinds off high spots. Clay grabs dirt. Compound thins your clear coat every time you use it.. Clay doesn't. Totally different methodologies.
Clay only becomes abrasive if you don't turn it and use it too long. I think the stuff is magical, and one of the best detailing products to come along in ages.
Clay isn't at all like compound. Compound grinds off high spots. Clay grabs dirt. Compound thins your clear coat every time you use it.. Clay doesn't. Totally different methodologies.
Clay only becomes abrasive if you don't turn it and use it too long. I think the stuff is magical, and one of the best detailing products to come along in ages.
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The other 10% were bigger patches but it did a decent job of diluting them and then the clay was able to get them out completely. Probably could've come out with another application but I was scared it might be tough on the paint because it smells very strong.
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Originally Posted by Lemarp
Really? Granted my 911 was always pristine clean, I used iron remover on my wifes white BMW and it removed 90% of iron deposits from the paint (it looks like rust embedded into the paint).
The other 10% were bigger patches but it did a decent job of diluting them and then the clay was able to get them out completely. Probably could've come out with another application but I was scared it might be tough on the paint because it smells very strong.
The other 10% were bigger patches but it did a decent job of diluting them and then the clay was able to get them out completely. Probably could've come out with another application but I was scared it might be tough on the paint because it smells very strong.
Three Wheelin'
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From: San Diego <->Knoxville
I've clayed my cars for many years. I do like the Griots Garage clay and their Speed Shine (the only two Griots Garage products I buy - mainly because their products overall I think are just ok but the pricing is just ridiculous. I did try the synthetic clay product. After a half hour with it, it went into the trash.
Detailers garage is local to me and they have coupons every now and then. I still have traditional clay but use the synthetic clay for in between full details. Sorry it didn't work out for you but it works for me. One of my cars is black so it'll show everything.
https://www.detailgarage.com/products
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From: Westfield NJ
The iron is easiest to see in white paint and will look like orange particles. It comes from brake dust and road particulate. Using an Iron dissolving product like IronX helps dissolve the ferrous particles embedded in the paint while the clay bar is mechanically removing whatever is left over, plus the non-ferrous stuff. They can be used together followed by a polish, as clay is a mild abrasive.
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The iron is easiest to see in white paint and will look like orange particles. It comes from brake dust and road particulate. Using an Iron dissolving product like IronX helps dissolve the ferrous particles embedded in the paint while the clay bar is mechanically removing whatever is left over, plus the non-ferrous stuff. They can be used together followed by a polish, as clay is a mild abrasive.
And when it comes to automotive product chemistry, I've smelled more than my fair share by a wide margin.
IronX is just God-awful smelling stuff. Gag inducing really.
At least it's good that it does work.
Last edited by Ironman88; Nov 9, 2020 at 04:09 PM. Reason: I can't spell
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It is TGA, the mercaptan sulphur (rotten egg smell) is inherent. Although almost PH neutral, it is a salt of a glycolic acid. Corrosive by nature. I like clay bars, I even use them in the tub.
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I've been using pinnacle ultra poly clay and mothers clay and been happy with both. Never had any scratches introduced by the clay. I don't use it regularly, but I do find it helps clean off the summer pollen and very fine sap that can carry on the wind returning the car to a smooth feel without damaging or requiring polishing after.
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I tried plumbers putty on my wifes Kia (shhhhh....don't tell her). Well it does actually work about the same as a clay bar but requires a bit more rubbing to achieve the same results. There are lots of YouTube videos on it.